[gentoo-trustees] Re: Request for funds

[gentoo-trustees] Re: Request for funds

[Seemant Kulleen]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 03:16:40AM +0000, Corey Shields wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 September 2005 03:04 am, you wrote:
> >
> > Could you explain why this wouldn't look good to the IRS?
> 
> My fear is that the moment we start to help a dev in need, there will be devs 
> in need all over.  What, then, becomes the criteria for selecting Dev A but 
> rejecting Dev B?  If that becomes sketchy then the complaint could be made 
> (to the IRS) that the Gentoo Foundation is no longer operating in the public 
> interest.
> 
> -C
>

I was not referring to power bills and such.  I was actually thinking of
burnt harddrives, cpus, memory sticks etc.  Such things can be purchased
and sent (and thus moneys tracked).  In other words, my statement was
about things rather than cash.  Having said that, it is entirely
possible that it would be a slippery slope with a lot of devs suddenly
in need, but I tend to think people are basically good and that that
won't happen.

Seemant
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Re: [gentoo-trustees] Re: Request for funds

[Kurt Lieber]

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 07:26:35AM -0400 or thereabouts, Seemant Kulleen wrote:
> > My fear is that the moment we start to help a dev in need, there will be devs 
> > in need all over.  What, then, becomes the criteria for selecting Dev A but 
> > rejecting Dev B?  If that becomes sketchy then the complaint could be made 
> > (to the IRS) that the Gentoo Foundation is no longer operating in the public 
> > interest.
> 
> I was not referring to power bills and such.  I was actually thinking of
> burnt harddrives, cpus, memory sticks etc.  Such things can be purchased
> and sent (and thus moneys tracked).  In other words, my statement was
> about things rather than cash.  Having said that, it is entirely
> possible that it would be a slippery slope with a lot of devs suddenly
> in need, but I tend to think people are basically good and that that
> won't happen.

In general, I don't support the notion of buying things for individuals,
for many of the reasons Corey already articulated, but also because I don't
think that such targeted purchases are really the best way to disburse our
funds.

I want to see the Foundation sending developers to conferences where they
can answer user questions, get a better feel for what our community really
wants, etc.  Broad-reaching type stuff.  I agree that providing a stick of
RAM to a developer has tangible benefit to Gentoo, but I'd rather see that
handled via other means.  (private donations, etc.)

That's my $.02, at least.

--kurt

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Re: [gentoo-trustees] Re: Request for funds

[Lance Albertson]

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Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 07:26:35AM -0400 or thereabouts, Seemant Kulleen wrote:
> 
>>>My fear is that the moment we start to help a dev in need, there will be devs 
>>>in need all over.  What, then, becomes the criteria for selecting Dev A but 
>>>rejecting Dev B?  If that becomes sketchy then the complaint could be made 
>>>(to the IRS) that the Gentoo Foundation is no longer operating in the public 
>>>interest.
>>
>>I was not referring to power bills and such.  I was actually thinking of
>>burnt harddrives, cpus, memory sticks etc.  Such things can be purchased
>>and sent (and thus moneys tracked).  In other words, my statement was
>>about things rather than cash.  Having said that, it is entirely
>>possible that it would be a slippery slope with a lot of devs suddenly
>>in need, but I tend to think people are basically good and that that
>>won't happen.
> 
> 
> In general, I don't support the notion of buying things for individuals,
> for many of the reasons Corey already articulated, but also because I don't
> think that such targeted purchases are really the best way to disburse our
> funds.
> 
> I want to see the Foundation sending developers to conferences where they
> can answer user questions, get a better feel for what our community really
> wants, etc.  Broad-reaching type stuff.  I agree that providing a stick of
> RAM to a developer has tangible benefit to Gentoo, but I'd rather see that
> handled via other means.  (private donations, etc.)

(Sorry for my late response)

I'd have to agree with Kurt here as well. I would rather see things that
are more broad reaching in helping Gentoo than offering things
individually.

Maybe we should get an ad in the NYTimes like mozilla did ;-) (j/k).

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Re: [gentoo-trustees] Re: Request for funds

[Sven Vermeulen]

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 06:24:49PM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote:
> I'd have to agree with Kurt here as well. I would rather see things that
> are more broad reaching in helping Gentoo than offering things
> individually.
> 
> Maybe we should get an ad in the NYTimes like mozilla did ;-) (j/k).

In some cases, individual updates can benefit the entire Gentoo community.
For instance, if we only have a single developer working on something, his
box dies for whatever reason and no other developer can chime in.

This is a rare occasion though.

Wkr,
      Sven Vermeulen

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