* [gentoo-trustees] bylaws
@ 2004-10-24 17:56 Grant Goodyear
2004-10-24 21:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
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From: Grant Goodyear @ 2004-10-24 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
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Dear all,
I've put together a very preliminary set of bylaws that I stole (with
permission) from the Python software foundation. I suspect that we'll
want to make a lot of changes, but I suspect it will serve as a decent
starting point. We'll also need to pass whatever final version we come
up with by our consul, of course, but I suspect we've got a fair bit of
hashing-out to do before we get to that step.
http://dev.gentoo.org/~g2boojum/bylaws.html
Best,
g2boojum
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Grant Goodyear
Gentoo Developer
g2boojum@gentoo.org
http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum
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* Re: [gentoo-trustees] bylaws
2004-10-24 17:56 [gentoo-trustees] bylaws Grant Goodyear
@ 2004-10-24 21:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-10-25 14:22 ` John Davis
2004-11-30 23:44 ` Deedra Waters
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From: Paul de Vrieze @ 2004-10-24 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
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On Sunday 24 October 2004 19:56, Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Dear all,
> I've put together a very preliminary set of bylaws that I stole (with
> permission) from the Python software foundation. I suspect that we'll
> want to make a lot of changes, but I suspect it will serve as a decent
> starting point. We'll also need to pass whatever final version we come
> up with by our consul, of course, but I suspect we've got a fair bit of
> hashing-out to do before we get to that step.
About:
Section 3.1. : Why delaware? Is that missed?
Section 3.4 : The sentence "If mailed, such notice shall be deemed to be
delivered when deposited in the United States mail addressed" seems to be
gramatically wrong (around the deposited in the United States mail)
Section 4.4 : Maybe it might be an idea to allow the posibility that the
members delegate the admission of members to the board.
Section 6.1 : I think it's probably better if the treasurer's position is
similarly protected like the president and the secretary.
Paul
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Paul de Vrieze
Gentoo Developer
Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org
Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net
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* Re: [gentoo-trustees] bylaws
2004-10-24 17:56 [gentoo-trustees] bylaws Grant Goodyear
2004-10-24 21:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
@ 2004-10-25 14:22 ` John Davis
2004-11-30 23:44 ` Deedra Waters
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From: John Davis @ 2004-10-25 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
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Grant Goodyear wrote:
| Dear all,
| I've put together a very preliminary set of bylaws that I stole (with
| permission) from the Python software foundation. I suspect that we'll
| want to make a lot of changes, but I suspect it will serve as a decent
| starting point. We'll also need to pass whatever final version we come
| up with by our consul, of course, but I suspect we've got a fair bit of
| hashing-out to do before we get to that step.
|
| http://dev.gentoo.org/~g2boojum/bylaws.html
|
| Best,
| g2boojum
Good work Grant!
The only part that I am concerned about is the clause about "Sponsor
Members". I am not sure if I like the idea of a sponsor being able to
buy themselves onto the board. Perhaps I am interpreting it wrong, but I
can see this as something which could harm us down the line (conflicts
of interest, etc). Would it be possible to remove this section and just
leave membership at two classes?
Regards,
//John
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John Davis
Gentoo Linux Developer/ Manger/ Trustee
http://www.gentoo.org
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* Re: [gentoo-trustees] bylaws
2004-10-24 17:56 [gentoo-trustees] bylaws Grant Goodyear
2004-10-24 21:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-10-25 14:22 ` John Davis
@ 2004-11-30 23:44 ` Deedra Waters
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From: Deedra Waters @ 2004-11-30 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
This is something else I want to add to the adjenda for this conference
call in the morning. We've discussed this now and then, but we've never
decided on theese, and I think this should be done soon
By the way, this is the last call for items to be added to the adjenda
for tomorrow's meeting, please let me know soon if there's anything else
you'd like discussed..
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:56:52 -0500
> From: Grant Goodyear <g2boojum@gentoo.org>
> Reply-To: gentoo-trustees@lists.gentoo.org
> To: gentoo-trustees@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: [gentoo-trustees] bylaws
>
> Dear all,
> I've put together a very preliminary set of bylaws that I stole (with
> permission) from the Python software foundation. I suspect that we'll
> want to make a lot of changes, but I suspect it will serve as a decent
> starting point. We'll also need to pass whatever final version we come
> up with by our consul, of course, but I suspect we've got a fair bit of
> hashing-out to do before we get to that step.
>
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~g2boojum/bylaws.html
>
> Best,
> g2boojum
>
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Deedra Waters - Gentoo developer relations, accessibility and infrastructure -
dmwaters@gentoo.org
Gentoo linux: http://www.gentoo.org
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* [gentoo-trustees] monthly nfp status updates
@ 2004-09-25 18:09 Deedra Waters
2004-09-26 17:02 ` John Davis
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From: Deedra Waters @ 2004-09-25 18:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
I'm thinking that we should post monthly status updates as to what we're
doing on either core or dev. We get a lot of questions as to what the
nfp is doing, and I think it'd be a good idea to keep our devs
informed...
Thoughts?
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dmwaters@gentoo.org
Gentoo linux: http://www.gentoo.org
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* Re: [gentoo-trustees] monthly nfp status updates
2004-09-25 18:09 [gentoo-trustees] monthly nfp status updates Deedra Waters
@ 2004-09-26 17:02 ` John Davis
2004-09-26 18:52 ` Sven Vermeulen
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From: John Davis @ 2004-09-26 17:02 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
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On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 11:09 -0700, Deedra Waters wrote:
> Thoughts?
Excellent idea. Do we have an official Recorder yet? If we do not, I
recommend that we appoint one and have them write these updates as well
as take meeting minutes. It would be very nice if we had one by the 8th
for the meeting with our lawyer.
Thanks Deedra :)
Regards,
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John Davis
Release Engineering
Gentoo Linux Developer/ Manager/ Trustee
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* Re: [gentoo-trustees] monthly nfp status updates
2004-09-26 17:02 ` John Davis
@ 2004-09-26 18:52 ` Sven Vermeulen
2004-09-27 19:32 ` Nicholas Jones
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From: Sven Vermeulen @ 2004-09-26 18:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
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On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 01:02:15PM -0400, John Davis wrote:
> Excellent idea. Do we have an official Recorder yet? If we do not, I
> recommend that we appoint one and have them write these updates as well
> as take meeting minutes. It would be very nice if we had one by the 8th
> for the meeting with our lawyer.
I'd be happy to take on this task.
Wkr,
Sven Vermeulen
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(oo) Sven Vermeulen
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* Re: [gentoo-trustees] monthly nfp status updates
2004-09-26 18:52 ` Sven Vermeulen
@ 2004-09-27 19:32 ` Nicholas Jones
2004-09-27 19:56 ` John Davis
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From: Nicholas Jones @ 2004-09-27 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
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> I'd be happy to take on this task.
I really don't think you're going to get any dissention here.
Go for it.
--NJ
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* Re: [gentoo-trustees] monthly nfp status updates
2004-09-27 19:32 ` Nicholas Jones
@ 2004-09-27 19:56 ` John Davis
2004-09-27 21:33 ` [gentoo-trustees] Bylaws (was: monthly nfp status updates) Sven Vermeulen
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From: John Davis @ 2004-09-27 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
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On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 15:32 -0400, Nicholas Jones wrote:
> > I'd be happy to take on this task.
>
> I really don't think you're going to get any dissention here.
>
> Go for it.
>
> --NJ
>
Congrats swift :)
We really need to hash out the responsibilities of each position. I
imagine the bylaws will take care of that though. Swift, if you need any
help with those, drop me a line.
Regards,
--
John Davis
Release Engineering
Gentoo Linux Developer/ Manager/ Trustee
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* [gentoo-trustees] Bylaws (was: monthly nfp status updates)
2004-09-27 19:56 ` John Davis
@ 2004-09-27 21:33 ` Sven Vermeulen
2004-09-27 23:52 ` [gentoo-trustees] Bylaws Corey Shields
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From: Sven Vermeulen @ 2004-09-27 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:56:12PM -0400, John Davis wrote:
> We really need to hash out the responsibilities of each position. I
> imagine the bylaws will take care of that though. Swift, if you need any
> help with those, drop me a line.
I don't think I'm the suitable guy for Bylaws. Those are quite juridical and
almost always imply a native English writer. I can always take the Bylaws of
some other organisations and fix them so they're suitable for the Gentoo
Foundation, but I don't think I'm allowed to do that :)
Unlike a charter, which imho must be written in an "easy" English so that
all readers understand the ideas that are used to write it.
Wkr,
Sven Vermeulen
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(oo) Sven Vermeulen
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* Re: [gentoo-trustees] Bylaws
2004-09-27 21:33 ` [gentoo-trustees] Bylaws (was: monthly nfp status updates) Sven Vermeulen
@ 2004-09-27 23:52 ` Corey Shields
2004-09-29 15:32 ` John Davis
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From: Corey Shields @ 2004-09-27 23:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
Sven Vermeulen wrote:
>I don't think I'm the suitable guy for Bylaws. Those are quite juridical and
>almost always imply a native English writer. I can always take the Bylaws of
>some other organisations and fix them so they're suitable for the Gentoo
>Foundation, but I don't think I'm allowed to do that :)
>
>
I'm still up for the filling out the 501(c)(6) paperwork, but one of
those things we need are the bylaws.. I think I could handle it all
but that. I imagine the bylaws will need input from everyone. It
wouldn't hurt there to look off of some other projects and similar NFP's.
-C
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* Re: [gentoo-trustees] Bylaws
2004-09-27 23:52 ` [gentoo-trustees] Bylaws Corey Shields
@ 2004-09-29 15:32 ` John Davis
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From: John Davis @ 2004-09-29 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-trustees
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On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 18:52 -0500, Corey Shields wrote:
> Sven Vermeulen wrote:
>
> >I don't think I'm the suitable guy for Bylaws. Those are quite juridical and
> >almost always imply a native English writer. I can always take the Bylaws of
> >some other organisations and fix them so they're suitable for the Gentoo
> >Foundation, but I don't think I'm allowed to do that :)
> >
> >
> I'm still up for the filling out the 501(c)(6) paperwork, but one of
> those things we need are the bylaws.. I think I could handle it all
> but that. I imagine the bylaws will need input from everyone. It
> wouldn't hurt there to look off of some other projects and similar NFP's.
>
> -C
>
> --
> gentoo-trustees@gentoo.org mailing list
>
Corey -
I have started researching other organization's by-laws and practices. I
am currently in contact with the Fedora Project, the Debian Project, and
SPI (http://www.spi-inc.org) (the Debian folks referred me to them). I
will let you know what I find.
Cheers,
--
John Davis
Release Engineering
Gentoo Linux Developer/ Manager/ Trustee
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