[gentoo-systemd] How to handle systemd stable branch?

[gentoo-systemd] How to handle systemd stable branch?

[Pacho Ramos]

Hello

I didn't notice the presence of:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/

Until now, looks like it's "official" per:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Backports/

How should we "package" it? cgit provides tarballs at:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/commit/?id=255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a

For example:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/snapshot/systemd-stable-255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a.tar.gz

How would you like to prepare that tarballs? How often?

Thanks!

Re: [gentoo-systemd] How to handle systemd stable branch?

[Greg KH]

On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:21:33PM +0100, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I didn't notice the presence of:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/
> 
> Until now, looks like it's "official" per:
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Backports/
> 
> How should we "package" it? cgit provides tarballs at:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/commit/?id=255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a

Just like "normal" -rc updates?

> For example:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/snapshot/systemd-stable-255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a.tar.gz
> 
> How would you like to prepare that tarballs? How often?

How ever often is needed?

Re: [gentoo-systemd] How to handle systemd stable branch?

[Michał Górny]

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Dnia 2014-02-28, o godz. 23:21:33
Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> napisał(a):

> I didn't notice the presence of:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/
> 
> Until now, looks like it's "official" per:
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Backports/
> 
> How should we "package" it? cgit provides tarballs at:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/commit/?id=255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a
> 
> For example:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/snapshot/systemd-stable-255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a.tar.gz
> 
> How would you like to prepare that tarballs? How often?

Hmm, I wonder if it'd be better to prep tarballs or just grab patchsets
off that repo.

Though creating tarballs ourselves (via make dist-xz) would allow us to
avoid autoreconf.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-systemd] How to handle systemd stable branch?

[Pacho Ramos]

El vie, 28-02-2014 a las 23:36 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
> Dnia 2014-02-28, o godz. 23:21:33
> Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
> 
> > I didn't notice the presence of:
> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/
> > 
> > Until now, looks like it's "official" per:
> > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Backports/
> > 
> > How should we "package" it? cgit provides tarballs at:
> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/commit/?id=255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a
> > 
> > For example:
> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/snapshot/systemd-stable-255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a.tar.gz
> > 
> > How would you like to prepare that tarballs? How often?
> 
> Hmm, I wonder if it'd be better to prep tarballs or just grab patchsets
> off that repo.
> 
> Though creating tarballs ourselves (via make dist-xz) would allow us to
> avoid autoreconf.
> 

Umm, we sometimes do that (make dist-xz and a 209_pre$date) on gnome one
patchsets become so large. Our tarballs would have the advantage of
avoid running autoreconf indeed and also will let us to use XZ instead
of gzip (the one provided by cgit) :/

Re: [gentoo-systemd] How to handle systemd stable branch?

[Michał Górny]

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Dnia 2014-03-01, o godz. 00:21:32
Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> napisał(a):

> El vie, 28-02-2014 a las 23:36 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
> > Dnia 2014-02-28, o godz. 23:21:33
> > Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
> > 
> > > I didn't notice the presence of:
> > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/
> > > 
> > > Until now, looks like it's "official" per:
> > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Backports/
> > > 
> > > How should we "package" it? cgit provides tarballs at:
> > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/commit/?id=255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a
> > > 
> > > For example:
> > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/snapshot/systemd-stable-255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a.tar.gz
> > > 
> > > How would you like to prepare that tarballs? How often?
> > 
> > Hmm, I wonder if it'd be better to prep tarballs or just grab patchsets
> > off that repo.
> > 
> > Though creating tarballs ourselves (via make dist-xz) would allow us to
> > avoid autoreconf.
> > 
> 
> Umm, we sometimes do that (make dist-xz and a 209_pre$date) on gnome one
> patchsets become so large. Our tarballs would have the advantage of
> avoid running autoreconf indeed and also will let us to use XZ instead
> of gzip (the one provided by cgit) :/

Err, you know:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/snapshot/systemd-stable-255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a.tar.xz

s/gz/xz/ and it works ;).

Nevertheless, I think 'make dist' is more correct. I don't know if cgit
aims at reproducible tarballs.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-systemd] How to handle systemd stable branch?

[Mike Gilbert]

On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Dnia 2014-02-28, o godz. 23:21:33
> Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
>
>> I didn't notice the presence of:
>> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/
>>
>> Until now, looks like it's "official" per:
>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Backports/
>>
>> How should we "package" it? cgit provides tarballs at:
>> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/commit/?id=255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a
>>
>> For example:
>> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/snapshot/systemd-stable-255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a.tar.gz
>>
>> How would you like to prepare that tarballs? How often?
>
> Hmm, I wonder if it'd be better to prep tarballs or just grab patchsets
> off that repo.
>
> Though creating tarballs ourselves (via make dist-xz) would allow us to
> avoid autoreconf.
>

I definitely prefer not having to autoreconf. Applying patches is
certainly not a horrible thing either, but I don't see any advantage
to doing it that way.

As for timing: once every month or two seems like a good frequency,
assuming nothing critical pops up. If someone can follow the commits
closely enough, that can be fine-tuned down to the as-needed schedule
that Greg suggests.

Re: [gentoo-systemd] How to handle systemd stable branch?

[Pacho Ramos]

El sáb, 01-03-2014 a las 00:52 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
> Dnia 2014-03-01, o godz. 00:21:32
> Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
> 
> > El vie, 28-02-2014 a las 23:36 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
> > > Dnia 2014-02-28, o godz. 23:21:33
> > > Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
> > > 
> > > > I didn't notice the presence of:
> > > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/
> > > > 
> > > > Until now, looks like it's "official" per:
> > > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Backports/
> > > > 
> > > > How should we "package" it? cgit provides tarballs at:
> > > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/commit/?id=255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a
> > > > 
> > > > For example:
> > > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/snapshot/systemd-stable-255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a.tar.gz
> > > > 
> > > > How would you like to prepare that tarballs? How often?
> > > 
> > > Hmm, I wonder if it'd be better to prep tarballs or just grab patchsets
> > > off that repo.
> > > 
> > > Though creating tarballs ourselves (via make dist-xz) would allow us to
> > > avoid autoreconf.
> > > 
> > 
> > Umm, we sometimes do that (make dist-xz and a 209_pre$date) on gnome one
> > patchsets become so large. Our tarballs would have the advantage of
> > avoid running autoreconf indeed and also will let us to use XZ instead
> > of gzip (the one provided by cgit) :/
> 
> Err, you know:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/snapshot/systemd-stable-255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a.tar.xz
> 
> s/gz/xz/ and it works ;).
> 
> Nevertheless, I think 'make dist' is more correct. I don't know if cgit
> aims at reproducible tarballs.
> 

Didn't know that

Regarding the reproducibility, I think they are. I have seen lots of
cases in Fedora of .spec files relying on concrete snapshots from cgit 

Re: [gentoo-systemd] How to handle systemd stable branch?

[Michał Górny]

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Dnia 2014-02-28, o godz. 23:21:33
Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> napisał(a):

> Hello
> 
> I didn't notice the presence of:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/
> 
> Until now, looks like it's "official" per:
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Backports/
> 
> How should we "package" it? cgit provides tarballs at:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/commit/?id=255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a
> 
> For example:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/snapshot/systemd-stable-255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a.tar.gz
> 
> How would you like to prepare that tarballs? How often?

One more question: how do we want to name the versions? 210_pNN for NN
patches? Or 210.NN?

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-systemd] How to handle systemd stable branch?

[Pacho Ramos]

El dom, 02-03-2014 a las 16:04 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
> Dnia 2014-02-28, o godz. 23:21:33
> Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
> 
> > Hello
> > 
> > I didn't notice the presence of:
> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/
> > 
> > Until now, looks like it's "official" per:
> > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Backports/
> > 
> > How should we "package" it? cgit provides tarballs at:
> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/commit/?id=255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a
> > 
> > For example:
> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/snapshot/systemd-stable-255eb046a7bcb90e60a3a54302bc1250c1aed26a.tar.gz
> > 
> > How would you like to prepare that tarballs? How often?
> 
> One more question: how do we want to name the versions? 210_pNN for NN
> patches? Or 210.NN?
> 

On gnome we call them as _pre$(date)... but would be difficult here as
it would be something like 209_pre... :/

Maybe 208_p1 would be better, or 208_p20140302