From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-soc+bounces-2375-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 308EB138334 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 02:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1094E0963; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 02:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x231.google.com (mail-oi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0AFDE0963 for <gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 02:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-x231.google.com with SMTP id 13-v6so18495454ois.1 for <gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:18:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jsteward.moe; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=iECKBufDNPtAAqu5bAAEdnZR2SqyzmkeINxuoZjCy8k=; b=eqDg0eL0LLF7BhYBMsBr8PaZE0QJkXvfTaylQSZtjHgBLpeWEK5h4VXmwnaqSlDFjR nckUewFtlcQw6YuxxHJkszsuPCJ6ZDdKpFWc++S2iz1HoHV7sqBq6tw0IdYbQUhDA0TY h7tqi4F74GOg2RjmEhdUBpu33MB0WELReiGWGjzeFxnwlA2+cfOegWv2Hv/cp0tycm3L QrF01VfjICAZ7etC7svu5tvhUmeWgiGgO+dRONUJiKIKEjtZeDW/FEQu9DTRWaC9LbiH TYFQwV7fm+xtqOJacG8LK0tZY3VjUBHLMN27krsIfOMG+HsIO2jN86GqR7qN8sA8bEPu Sr4A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=iECKBufDNPtAAqu5bAAEdnZR2SqyzmkeINxuoZjCy8k=; b=ORa2cO18rcCspAFXtHfmo3TdeiPaZieXpL506SG5TUunJtxZUUrPscw6WUKnjji2ys tBuluMu2pO63h6Uxg4ivT8lfN1/WLbgWuTmM4ZAW0zpyN6wCw5pTrHbeFHjq6Fn8HcGL jDdUaX5jsFVYJtG6T1XR9zMtlzfMVDb1uUEkomhxnihI6DJZ9kpPKJAnBAKfH+UZgsEF WvBJbtPtbvq+6HTedM29ZU0GbFvpc68A/w8J8kiuxrZwY/7otGtiPSUFvq1ZtWUyUgBF sCI2vXJmGxPBPKJ7RtVCXhIirzqHH7cqg5ATgAQsxvKzQy+WChx9zlhKEDpeKx5nKJqr Chvg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlGqiM35JLx9UxZwg9aPS55GEuAKqN5DiIuxsI1rMXssDf1qPjJ5 5lxYx4zmD+iA99JjmAqTpMtdku+VEm+Sa4EJQaEpHkrtNYgRMA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpfnYYMb6IgQQIEqo+mdcGeHyPnvlQj28Z4xlKyW7Mksev7dqujnuFFQt3ub3KS4y2ma89xsDpEQDIJxxK3RQTQ= X-Received: by 2002:aca:ea05:: with SMTP id i5-v6mr16841174oih.60.1532917089331; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-soc+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-soc+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-soc+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-soc.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ac9:1481:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:18:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180729083614.242a40c9@professor-x> References: <CADuippCJ+dsd4HdUUx4Kx=8fO4nqOCcrSAZ37gRQRy1-ma0n=A@mail.gmail.com> <20180729082001.3a3f3c4e@professor-x> <20180729083614.242a40c9@professor-x> From: Pengcheng Xu <i@jsteward.moe> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 10:18:09 +0800 Message-ID: <CADuippA5tMjfc_vx6BYAr83HkR3+ak5iH4L6MjJYGOAThpeTMA@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-soc] Weekly report 07/30 To: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: ab61dec2-5930-4f5d-8206-4b1d1e4ceb7e X-Archives-Hash: d774fdb765aaa6bccc1d7ed7a2a4a86a Hi Brian, 2018-07-29 23:36 GMT+08:00 Brian Dolbec <dolsen@gentoo.org>: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 08:20:01 -0700 > Brian Dolbec <dolsen@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 21:40:30 +0800 >> Pengcheng Xu <i@jsteward.moe> wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Last week's report is available now. Link: >> > >> > https://jsteward.moe/weekly-report-0730.html >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> >> While I am not directly involved with gsoc this year... I can't help >> but to respond here. >> >> Reports like this were not acceptable in past years. >> >> Just showing a link to a report is not enough. >> >> A PROPER report here should include enough info to give the reader an >> idea if they want to follow the link and get all the details. >> >> While I don't expect a 3 page essay, you should summarize what was >> done in brief, but clear writing. The link to the full detailed >> report at the end. > > I should have followed the link before responding... > > The link contents is no more than a brief summary. I didn't do a word > count, but, I think my previous reply was about the same size... So > how hard would it have been to copy/paste that text into an email... My GSoC weekly report workflow had been like that throughout the project: full reports, be it long or short, stays on my blog. When the report is short, the email usually contains just a link, and the report holds links as well as descriptions of each separated topic. Sometimes the descriptions are omitted as the titles clearly express what the articles are about. > > But I still find that report lacking for a detailed report. You should > have included some details of what was done for the automatic setup. Sorry for the overly-concise README for the sharkbait-setup repository. I updated the README and added a link to the blog article when the work is first produced (detailed steps without any kind of script automation). > > Also, why are your user guides just in a blog? Shouldn't the user guides > be added to the Gentoo wiki? Blog guide info I would think would only > be for brief preliminary help info for mentors and other actively > interested persons. So as the project progressed, they could keep up > to date with the code. But the real documentation should in my > opinion be put somewhere central like our Gentoo wiki. There are two reasons that I first write my articles on my blog: 1. I am not familiar with the markup language used in MediaWiki; I usually write in MarkDown instead. Switching over to a new Markup language disrupts the process of writing and is time-consuming. I plan to use pandoc to convert MarkDown to MediaWiki and post on Gentoo Wiki instead of directly writing the guides on the Wiki. 2. IMHO a consistent place where all information can be found is important. My blog about the project contains too many details that people won't care, so not everything is suitable to be on the Wiki. That's why I've chosen to scrub the articles and pick important ones and post them on the Wiki, not directly writing everything on the Wiki. Thanks! -- Pengcheng Xu i@jsteward.moe