From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D518F1381F3 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:07:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99E97E0AC2; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com (mail-vc0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D958E0AC2; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id lf10so374786vcb.34 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:06:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5jssOVserpJvxfonBqD5vBjTQZkObQ0IgBFDeVrK9Bc=; b=iTos6VF4Z19XSEeWvaVmvxLbFzqONRbq5Jss/mkRl5wMIcn4yoXpDF3K2Olmub0Lcb 0ayWJPc6NiP5qdWVrR4ZvXAWZB0ymk1fC3gmRCIHaLm/EHgnc+4uvn+hTeL6mC4EoRvp pn8YYv64kchQrVdNsUwWDBxBTpGNNws376VXzjqqdkIb+AeZk82boLWt+kE7LeXOk0HE Jd35rAupyj7RZ4jrepY2011j2l+a7WgONxPO9otge1lVrFjtUpfj+2NiipmWJkRxuyJl FAdq85LKLYBk9zbXedENC4a13OL4LWb0RU786sCelQSYqcSqvQcHGG/f802Wg8PUVe71 aKsA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.97.131 with SMTP id ea3mr16817332vdb.71.1366654001631; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.156.82 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:06:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1366560793.10091.14.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:06:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-soc] Catalyst Python reimplementation From: Andrey Falko To: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Brian Dolbec , Gentoo Catalyst Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfc7e4c8c9d04daf6ee5b X-Archives-Salt: 6c9d81e2-f5a5-4203-b8a7-46841c5609be X-Archives-Hash: 1b697fa5932169dcdcbe6ced90814bf6 --20cf307cfc7e4c8c9d04daf6ee5b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Dmitry, You should be able to follow this guide to install Gentoo without an UI: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml . At first glance, it looks daunting, but in reality if you follow the steps and read carefully you'll have a Gentoo system up and running in no time. Using something like virtualbox is sufficent, in fact, it makes following the install handbook easier because you don't have to print the entire guide. Also you can snapshot your virtual machine in case you make a mistake and need to roll back. All in all, you'll pick up some good GNU/Linux knowledge if you successfully install Gentoo, which never hurts :). On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Dmitry Selyutin wrote: > Hello Brian! > > Thanks for the fast answer! > The biggest problem is that I've used only Kubuntu (for one year) and > since that time I've been using openSUSE (for more than two years already). > Is it hard for novice to use Gentoo if I know only basics of C and C++ and > prefer to set up system using GUI rather than shell if it is possible > (though sometimes I've had to change some things using shell before)? > > P.S. Will it be enough to setup Gentoo as virtual system like VirtualBox? > Or it is better to free partition? > > > 2013/4/21 Brian Dolbec > >> On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 05:08 +0400, Dmitry Selyutin wrote: >> > Hello everyone! >> > >> > >> > My name is Dmitry and I'm writing here because I've found a proposal >> > to rewrite Catalyst in Gentoo GSoC-2013 Ideas page[1]. I know that >> > application period hasn't started yet, but I already think that I'd >> > like to take up this job. However I've found that before posting >> > application I must perform some actions: >> > >> > >> > 1. Use the tools that you will use in your project to make changes to >> > code. >> >> This is the big one. To be able to work on catalyst, you first must be >> running and using gentoo linux and be familiar with it. Gentoo's >> package management tools are central to running and using catalyst to >> build various output media. If you are not already using gentoo, you >> best get a partition free and install it asap. Become familiar with it. >> >> tools to be familiar with: >> >> portage and it's cli tools, emerge, emaint, portageq >> gentoolkit's equery, eclean >> >> You must be familiar with using the above tools and solving build >> problems and package installation failures. >> >> Then start trying to use catalyst to generate some targets. >> >> This is all information that will need for you to succeed in your >> project proposal. >> >> >> > 2. Participate in our development community. >> > 3. Give us your contact info and working hours. >> > >> >> [snip]... >> >> > The other question is that it is really hard to find some project >> > which uses python and emit patch to it to pass requirements. Could you >> > advice a good bug, please? :-) >> > >> > >> Don't worry about that yet. It is early :) >> >> > If you think I have a chance, I can even answer the third question >> > (about work hours, contacts, etc.). :-) >> > >> > >> > Looking forward to your answers! >> > >> >> This will be something for your actual proposal. It can be done later. >> >> > >> > P.S. Thanks for being so patience to read such a long letter till the >> > end! >> > >> >> > -- >> > With best regards, >> > Dmitry Selyutin >> > >> > E-mail: ghostmansd@gmail.com >> > Phone: +7(985)334-07-70 >> >> >> >> > > > -- > With best regards, > Dmitry Selyutin > > E-mail: ghostmansd@gmail.com > Phone: +7(985)334-07-70 > --20cf307cfc7e4c8c9d04daf6ee5b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dmitry,

You should be able to follow = this guide to install Gentoo without an UI: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/h= andbook-x86.xml . At first glance, it looks daunting, but in reality if= you follow the steps and read carefully you'll have a Gentoo system up= and running in no time. Using something like virtualbox is sufficent, in f= act, it makes following the install handbook easier because you don't h= ave to print the entire guide. Also you can snapshot your virtual machine i= n case you make a mistake and need to roll back. All in all, you'll pic= k up some good GNU/Linux knowledge if you successfully install Gentoo, whic= h never hurts :).


On Mon,= Apr 22, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Dmitry Selyutin <ghostman.sd@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
Hello Brian!

=
Thanks for the fast answer!
The biggest problem is that I= 9;ve used only Kubuntu (for one year) and since that time I've been usi= ng openSUSE (for more than two years already). Is it hard for novice to use= Gentoo if I know only basics of C and C++ and prefer to set up system usin= g GUI rather than shell if it is possible (though sometimes I've had to= change some things using shell before)?

P.S. Will it be enough to setup Gentoo as virtual syste= m like VirtualBox? Or it is better to free partition?


2013/= 4/21 Brian Dolbec <dolsen@gentoo.org>
On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 05:08 +0400, Dmit= ry Selyutin wrote:
> Hello everyone!
>
>
> My name is Dmitry and I'm writing here because I've found a pr= oposal
> to rewrite Catalyst in Gentoo GSoC-2013 Ideas page[1]. I know that
> application period hasn't started yet, but I already think that I&= #39;d
> like to take up this job. However I've found that before posting > application I must perform some actions:
>
>
> 1. Use the tools that you will use in your project to make changes to<= br> > code.

This is the big one. =C2=A0To be able to work on catalyst, you first = must be
running and using gentoo linux and be familiar with it. =C2=A0Gentoo's<= br> package management tools are central to running and using catalyst to
build various output media. =C2=A0If you are not already using gentoo, you<= br> best get a partition free and install it asap. Become familiar with it.

tools to be familiar with:

portage and it's cli tools, emerge, emaint, portageq
gentoolkit's equery, eclean

You must be familiar with using the above tools and solving build
problems and package installation failures.

Then start trying to use catalyst to generate some targets.

This is all information that will need for you to succeed in your
project proposal.


> 2. Participate in our development community.
> 3. Give us your contact info and working hours.
>

[snip]...

> =C2=A0The other question is that it is really hard to find some projec= t
> which uses python and emit patch to it to pass requirements. Could you=
> advice a good bug, please? :-)
>
>
Don't worry about that yet. =C2=A0It is early :)

> If you think I have a chance, I can even answer the third question
> (about work hours, contacts, etc.). :-)
>
>
> Looking forward to your answers!
>

This will be something for your actual proposal. =C2=A0It can be done= later.

>
> P.S. Thanks for being so patience to read such a long letter till the<= br> > end!
>

> --
> With best regards,
> Dmitry Selyutin
>
> E-mail: ghos= tmansd@gmail.com
> Phone: +7(985)334-07-70






--
=
With best regards,
Dmitry Selyutin<= div> Phone: +7(985)334-07-70

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