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From: heroxbd@gmail.com
To: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: openrc@gentoo.org, rleigh@debian.org, rra@debian.org
Subject: [gentoo-soc] [report 6.18-6.24] Daemons in Gentoo Prefix with OpenRC (extended to improving to OpenRC)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 08:25:44 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86y5n98xl3.fsf_-_@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86395po8sc.fsf_-_@gentoo.org> (heroxbd@gmail.com's message of "Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:36:35 +0900")

Hey guys and gals,

reports for the scheduled in the last week:

   ON-GOING 1. kill bugs for openrc

      https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=openrc&list_id=1113873
      
      ON-GOING 1.1 bug 413267

               reproduced on my box, investigating the built in "single"
               runlevel.

      TODO 1.2 bug 409829

   ON-GOING 2. evaluate other rc systems (in order)

      DONE 2.0 smf (Openindiana)

           2.0.1 updated in 
                 
                 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC
                 
           later mgorny created a page for general comparison,

                 http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems

           Further evaluations will go to the new page. Old page needs
           to be cleaned up.
           
      TODO 2.1 launchd (Mac OS X)

      ON-GOING 2.2 upstart (Ubuntu)
               as well as trying Gentoo Prefix on top of it (there has
               been a big block for Prefix on Ubuntu, cf. bug
               400839). and chaining openrc from upstart.

   EXTRA NOTE 3. found another thread for introducing OpenRC to
            debian[1]

      3.1 in the reply by rra@debian[2], there are really what we are
            missing in openrc (ecosystem). 

      3.2 rleigh@debian seems to represent the thinking of debian
            community towards init system[3]: they don't like systemd
            way of integrating everything. But they really need some
            event-driven mechanism, which is not well defined by OpenRC
            (yet).

      3.3 talked with rleigh via irc, conveying (as patrick did) we are
            eager to take ideas from debian, and impove OpenRC to suite
            debian's need provided it's of general interest. And I am
            eager to put my effort to carry ideas into reality.

      3.4 discussed with patrick in #openrc considering the thread, and
            agreed upon that we can extend OpenRC with some simple
            helper scripts (event-driven, crash restart/statistics,
            dbus-like API for triggers from outside) and kernel specific
            hooks on top of the present OpenRC core. Changing OpenRC
            itself to make a fancy feature (or fanboy's paradigm) is not
            good practice.

In the next step, to improve OpenRC with recent ideas of init system, I
am thinking of packaging OpenRC in debian and let it work out of box
(maybe the LSB thing is the major block instead) as a practical measure
of the usefulness of new features I would have introduced. (I myself is
an old debian user for 8 years, therefore motivated to do so).

rleigh and rra, could you please be my mentor for the packaging?

Schedules for 6.25-7.1
======================

        1. evaluating launchd, and finish upstart

        2. the openrc single/reboot built runlevel switching bug

        3. try to have a piece of script to prove my concept for using
                openrc as a "event-driven" init system. try to work with
                rleigh@debian (rra@debian), as they know what are really
                needed. and synchronize with openrc herd.

Cheers,
Benda

1. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/171695
2. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/171786
3. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/171897



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-27  0:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-11  4:05 [gentoo-soc] [report 6.3-6.10] Daemons in Gentoo Prefix with OpenRC heroxbd
2012-06-11 17:05 ` Luca Barbato
2012-06-20 23:36   ` [gentoo-soc] [report 6.11-6.17] " heroxbd
2012-06-21  4:55     ` Luca Barbato
2012-06-21  7:13       ` heroxbd
2012-06-21  7:50         ` Luca Barbato
2012-06-26 23:25     ` heroxbd [this message]
2012-07-04 15:31       ` [gentoo-soc] [report 6.25-7.4] Daemons in Gentoo Prefix with OpenRC (extended to improving to OpenRC) heroxbd
2012-07-04 16:34         ` Luca Barbato
2012-07-05 12:43           ` heroxbd
2012-07-05 13:21             ` Luca Barbato
2012-07-09  7:05               ` heroxbd
2012-07-09 18:35                 ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-09 19:11                   ` Luca Barbato

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