From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1So9wi-00081X-NS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 09:07:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50445E05FE for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-f53.google.com (mail-pb0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F115E0652 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 07:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbrr13 with SMTP id rr13so22010256pbb.40 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 00:05:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=Z7z/X+t5v1Lk05zOZnCMAIQQZg72JTVa9gqLidS0yIA=; b=q27Rk64IVr6kMlcfw7wgYnemXHNFMLo06ku5WnQs7CMGEXBUUZAMDmI4O6d3h8+BI7 uRW877+zDkAo+VOvOFpwEV0mBCGvr3g86uFJJi2oOD8nDExW89PQWDnsx1/ai3LI4dDa 34qRvNACMEwwyJAGfzc5SIVRO/NsGsPaeJcLn9SiorLiQxs2t3YdbQu8nwOrOsVEldzD A430A7yyz3WpSM8qGSZYUJ/nG5+COP7z6OrDuZtGQUC0PIy3SLLtga4D30Q97RJT+8Pm XDQH/XPeK8JbLODaX/EEwQ8wyq3hVk9LBTBjJJp5N+EDfltIBPlv+pK+fyFLHqfMVVWj yTbw== Received: by 10.68.203.66 with SMTP id ko2mr58347035pbc.84.1341817541653; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 00:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ernie02-dmz.awa.tohoku.ac.jp. [130.34.99.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jz4sm27159320pbc.17.2012.07.09.00.05.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 Jul 2012 00:05:40 -0700 (PDT) From: heroxbd@gmail.com To: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-soc] [report 6.25-7.4] Daemons in Gentoo Prefix with OpenRC (extended to improving to OpenRC) References: <86txyisdcb.fsf@gmail.com> <4FD62561.5090702@gentoo.org> <86395po8sc.fsf_-_@gentoo.org> <86y5n98xl3.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <8662a3y23a.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <4FF4707E.8010304@gentoo.org> <8662a2v0mu.fsf@gmail.com> <4FF594DB.9020109@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 16:05:36 +0900 In-Reply-To: <4FF594DB.9020109@gentoo.org> (Luca Barbato's message of "Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:21:31 +0200") Message-ID: <86a9z9qurj.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archives-Salt: 6e803a1c-0acc-49f3-956e-a866fdbd4cd5 X-Archives-Hash: 6d04edcceda588932d4f21c675d6b0fe Dear Luca, Luca Barbato writes: > That's good =) :) >> Evaluation of other init systems (smf, launchd, upstart and systemd is >> done by mgorny. > > You'll need to learn and teach us as well =) Though not with deep understanding :O >>> and see if there are changes to our end of project plans since lots >>> happened during this time =) >> >> The new plan is that I'd like to work with rleigh from debian to >> package openrc in debian and make it as an alternative init system. > > That part is quite important, as is getting to compile LSB scripts to > openrc ones (and/or vice-versa) and possibly get openrc support /run/ > directories I agree. Let me dive into it this week. >> What we've discussed in the beginning, such as event-driven init, >> periodical events, process monitoring and crash restart are still on >> the todo list. > > That's great, do you feel confident you'll be able to get all of this > done? I feel these are not technically difficult. But the policies count, besides the debates that if we really need these fancy features for an init system. My current feeling (or planning) is that just to make dirty ones with simple scripts to see if our community (debian is more similar to us than fedora) really like the things. The rule of thumb is to always make them optional, hopefully independent, components. Yours, Benda