From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581EB138010 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7B4CE0529 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B335E01DC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (unknown [222.67.127.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: patrick) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 363B033D753 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <503B5008.6000205@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:46:32 +0800 From: Patrick Lauer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120401 Thunderbird/11.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-soc] (draft) final report for OpenRC soc project 2012 References: <86wr1tcz8f.fsf@gmail.com> <86d333cngt.fsf@gmail.com> <5020DD0A.3030506@gentoo.org> <86ipct6k80.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <50235319.5000504@gentoo.org> <867gt75uab.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <5024CB9F.4060906@gentoo.org> <86y5lml15i.fsf_-_@gentoo.org> <86vcgpj8d8.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <5028BBBE.6060109@gentoo.org> <861uj8faqh.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <502C1903.1090805@gentoo.org> <86628jdyf6.fsf@gmail.com> <86sjbgpcd1.fsf@gmail.com> <5033AF72.2000101@gentoo.org> <86k3wrptq6.fsf@gmail.com> <50348BB8.3060403@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <50348BB8.3060403@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d0e58033-5230-4b9f-9884-2300ce47f2bf X-Archives-Hash: 87c1d59855df97c2766850cbab496ec2 On 08/22/12 15:35, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 8/22/12 4:04 AM, heroxbd@gmail.com wrote: >> Dear Luca, >> >> Luca Barbato writes: >> >>> On 8/21/12 4:07 PM, heroxbd@gmail.com wrote: >>>> For monitoring against OOM http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Monit >>> >>> So monit could be integrated in openrc easily ? >> >> In the way of runit, yes. >> >>>> cron/at is too general to document, there is one at >>>> >>>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml >>> >>> Agreed. >> >> :) >> >>>> upstart is designed to replace cron >>>> >>>> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/ReplaceCron >>>> >>>> systemd recommends to replace cron >>>> >>>> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Optimizations >>>> >>>> while OpenRC just work with it. For some fancy new feature to be >>>> used on >>>> non-servers, like "run every 5 minutes after start up", fcron can be >>>> used. >>> >>> Not sure exactly what should we add here. >> >> The feature of cron-like feature in systemd is limited, while in upstart >> they just replace cron for "cleanness" and integration. I don't think >> there is a special task OpenRC/cron can't do. >> >>>> A stub page is below. Still thinking of how to present it. May be >>>> we can >>>> just load it with examples which covers all the cases upstart being >>>> proud of. >>>> >>>> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC/Event_Driven >>> >>> Yes, might be a good approach. >> >> New examples welcome ;) How would gentoo deal with udev is still >> unclear, while I think we can document the present udev features. udev >> merge with systemd is not a big threat, is it? > > Replacing udev-systemd with udev is probably yet another huge project, > hopefully somebody would help. We already have patches to fix things thanks to Polynomial-C aka. Lars Wendler. See: http://dev.gentoo.org/~polynomial-c/udev/ Now we only need to motivate our maintainers to use the openrc useflag to fix udev properly. > > meanwhile we have some people using mdev to their satisfaction. > > lu >