From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OT2zN-0003qX-4y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:18:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9BB7E0F10; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pv0-f181.google.com (mail-pv0-f181.google.com [74.125.83.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC615E0F10 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvc22 with SMTP id 22so107368pvc.40 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:18:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; bh=LprpSKBy7Juu8JDmNo6U9L2tjtKnRxIRpvvXAwdpjTM=; b=VFNJ0EZOnw+73nitZw+KQmbUFh0oUj4zg6Vqr5McySJC5JcqSzlp1yXQES617zYhAl niKcV51h8Iq+lVlbUS2efvUgT7oYq5t22WlmHOy4rLc4G9CC1FQ8LfcFA9CWesroNyKF pXWzNQct4h+yShByyjv3+f0PtINiIgfNdZ2Qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=LNKxdaqqN1+wjaeQo4Qo4odVpGi/H7DDpyOCC2MPgfMEnmSK83FUO0Blj/IbUG8gus iJXdir5H2IRwjZRqSej+QKdz3W0sglsdcC+cDrFwZ6qQ+zr6NhOBJi6GJ5df2+h0q7Be LFMLXZNJZK5jon+mp/CZk4E3SqELTSR9oxbqg= Received: by 10.115.100.21 with SMTP id c21mr4479647wam.105.1277687886142; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [202.117.16.121] ([202.117.16.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n32sm37012991wag.7.2010.06.27.18.18.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C27F844.8010105@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:17:56 +0800 From: Mu Qiao User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100625 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-soc] Progress of NetworkManager Plug-in 2010.05.20 References: <4BF48ECA.2080204@gmail.com> <201006261601.31476.Nikoli@lavabit.com> <4C25FFB5.5050109@gmail.com> <201006261821.07306.Nikoli@lavabit.com> In-Reply-To: <201006261821.07306.Nikoli@lavabit.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: id=17B157E9 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB93AC4419B386815AF0E20D9" X-Archives-Salt: d53c10ae-7cc9-41ca-a149-bbf9abb59183 X-Archives-Hash: 0f775d007b7ff410efb14c4cde665f03 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB93AC4419B386815AF0E20D9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/26/2010 10:21 PM, Nikoli wrote: > =D0=92 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B8 =D0=BE=D1= =82 26 =D0=B8=D1=8E=D0=BD=D1=8F 2010 17:25:09 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D1=82=D0=BE=D1= =80 Mu Qiao =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: >> Well, you're right. I've go through the links you listed and I agree >> that pptp could be implemented. But as far as I know, NM supports vpnc= , >> openvpn and pptp by an unified way. I think it would be confusing to >> users if we only supported one of them. Think about it, it's a little >> mess(different configuration files, don't know which one is supported,= >> etc.). Meanwhile, currently it is very easy to make a VPN connection. = I >> don't see a strong need to support it by our plug-in especially when i= t >> may involve the mess. >> >> So in my opinion, If we could support vpnc, openvpn and pptp, it's wor= th >> implementing. Certainly, if you have better idea, please tell me :-). >=20 > Ideally plugin should work so: > 1) install gentoo > 2) install NM+plugin > 3) configure networks > 4) after rebooting all network connections work fine even if NM failed = to start=20 > or is completely removed. >=20 > Gentoo supports vpnc and openvpn with /etc/conf.d/net and /etc/init.d/v= pnc (=20 > /etc/init.d/openvpn ) + /etc/vpnc/ (/etc/openvpn/), so you can add supp= ort for=20 > them: > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/vpnc-howto.xml > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/OpenVPN >=20 > But this may require much work and in worst case may cause some code=20 > duplication. Yes, that's right. This plug-in has already involved several unplanned configuration files such as dhcpcd. It will become too complicated if we deal with too many files. But if it's worth implementing, I'll still do it. So I'll think about it after midterm evaluation. > Seems plugin also does not support GPRS (EDGE), do you plan to add it? = I'm not sure whether I can do it since I think GPRS is supported in a totally different way. As far as I know, the plug-in can not handle this. This is where the modem manager kicks in. --=20 Cheers, Mu Qiao GnuPG fingerprint: 92B1 B0C4 8D14 F8C4 EFA5 3ACC 30B3 0DE4 17B1 57E9 --------------enigB93AC4419B386815AF0E20D9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMJ/hIAAoJEDCzDeQXsVfp2CAIAKiUaiMK6WvI/19xeKgfIute bVhy1W0LelDX5sF2TXabHUZGq0b5ewGgd+fJu7l2/zDVsT87WjpRN/1p4zdMJT86 8hgJCkt+Ux6Lb4BHiD2OnVQrSSYct3YDevmSxF3lHiBwHkt2SQyb/MXpO/7OxvuT OL10JAXObBGfzE3Pmp+cO9GUk7ZjO9dNtOARPWh2Waz/RxyoR/aqpklYY0/owVkg HWXzj+l4OmjXI41cTiDJ3/3ixelvkz+8W77rOlqcVjE9egbbRCW0GVACxUsn5AL6 19mX0Ww96vsz3aOuJeOqMNwW/2cL44zY/ox++nCRlAulRXd9m76vtsj5hHUOcWw= =CI+8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB93AC4419B386815AF0E20D9--