From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OSVNl-0003Wd-O4 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:25:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 952FEE0796; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pw0-f53.google.com (mail-pw0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65274E0796 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi3 with SMTP id 3so3024849pwi.40 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:25:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; bh=bcmpymijRD4wiOoQ/f8HfMGjks0ZviekglKleRzpLzs=; b=I8z5NTcjO8+k66Fhw7Qsv7vWchnpCBbVRf7GasVwvKJ1EPogQzQSCkfx31u+6tBKxM VmRrheeeXGgjyr8UnAwWg7eyWtxg/P+l9ZKsxdryg8VisPScZMW5ODsFb7N2kxzsSi/p gLKJ2kxdNx/BhMnXs1RzuI3/S+dyYcl2rpGYE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=Vig3m3JxeDh1NmtKRxDiluCDYf3bk4HTOhrRo+LYYNwQqWsI5niJaglSJjqDRP5kdw DHugQphHFKorSLFtCFsn2Mo8l0W+ktex8AThdjTQjIYo31ANEKxA8sClpnAW8WiS9ukg UpAW8XbOyptgJ1Fdgo14+0YS58068SjCx99BA= Received: by 10.114.249.6 with SMTP id w6mr2537159wah.0.1277558709303; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [202.117.16.121] ([202.117.16.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k23sm19428317waf.5.2010.06.26.06.25.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C25FFB5.5050109@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:25:09 +0800 From: Mu Qiao User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100622 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-soc] Progress of NetworkManager Plug-in 2010.05.20 References: <4BF48ECA.2080204@gmail.com> <201006251708.18222.Nikoli@lavabit.com> <4C25840F.2050807@gmail.com> <201006261601.31476.Nikoli@lavabit.com> In-Reply-To: <201006261601.31476.Nikoli@lavabit.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: id=17B157E9 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFDB1260DB830C6CC946B960B" X-Archives-Salt: 3717a34b-c9a7-4d6b-a40b-90a1b86e96d4 X-Archives-Hash: 09f5666f43736190a54ff252c31758a5 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFDB1260DB830C6CC946B960B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/26/2010 08:01 PM, Nikoli wrote: > =D0=92 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B8 =D0=BE=D1= =82 26 =D0=B8=D1=8E=D0=BD=D1=8F 2010 08:37:35 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D1=82=D0=BE=D1= =80 Mu Qiao =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: >> On 06/25/2010 09:08 PM, Nikoli wrote: >>>>> Have PPTP implemented yet? >>>> >>>> PPTP is part of VPN which /etc/conf.d/net does not support to config= ure. >>> >>> Actually it supports PPTP. Example config in attachment. >> >> I've seen your attachment and I guess it is an example to configure pp= p >> connection over pptp. But it's not the one configuring pptp itself. Wh= at >> do you think? >=20 > I think you did not read /usr/portage/net-dialup/pptpclient/pptpclient-= 1.7.2- > r2.ebuild : > " > DEPEND=3D"net-dialup/ppp > dev-lang/perl > tk? ( dev-perl/perl-tk )" > RDEPEND=3D"${DEPEND} > sys-apps/iproute2" > " > and 'man pptp': > " > By default, pptp establishes the PPTP call to the PPTP server, and then= starts=20 > an instance of pppd to manage the data transfer. However, pptp can also= be run=20 > as a connection manager within pppd. > " > In other words pptp works only in conjunction with pppd. My example con= figures=20 > pptp: > 'pptp ppp.lan --nolaunchpppd --nobuffer --loglevel 0' >=20 > http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_PPTP_Internet - good howto > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PPTP - not so good, in Gentoo we do not = need to=20 > touch anything in /etc/ppp/ >=20 > P.S. Thank you for your work! Native support of Gentoo configs in NM is= must- > have feature. >=20 >=20 Well, you're right. I've go through the links you listed and I agree that pptp could be implemented. But as far as I know, NM supports vpnc, openvpn and pptp by an unified way. I think it would be confusing to users if we only supported one of them. Think about it, it's a little mess(different configuration files, don't know which one is supported, etc.). Meanwhile, currently it is very easy to make a VPN connection. I don't see a strong need to support it by our plug-in especially when it may involve the mess. So in my opinion, If we could support vpnc, openvpn and pptp, it's worth implementing. Certainly, if you have better idea, please tell me :-). --=20 Cheers, Mu Qiao GnuPG fingerprint: 92B1 B0C4 8D14 F8C4 EFA5 3ACC 30B3 0DE4 17B1 57E9 --------------enigFDB1260DB830C6CC946B960B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMJf+4AAoJEDCzDeQXsVfpVvwIALPscUEKobO4Gp0hZa2D/mnx GaQJRjPq0/Dv5lRDOT0o5Zvn82ulcBqNPTgNkdjATI+2xBBPiEmEkh9lp16SKwaW VFN1MVmhtxvzbZsuafC6vaHWR+2zGflVme6fi2svT3CVtG7zjfJ2cN0Mm2Ihr4Jy HRdEVGwsSTB217vVerR4ZV+8tWTzyYVVwOZO+0nbl8dWISwuygqFFyxg9aOPqu50 XunCcViszvV24g75olnD85Ld8Sdi/IIbV6yJkTHqsB6KRJmmeaRHqyXrGYm4jzL6 6Jhm6X/gtqXiC1mnmLkPCQ7U72IMY2d9N5pd3nUAMzmOqfFSKCgdQ2SoVqiv0e0= =zUwC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFDB1260DB830C6CC946B960B--