[gentoo-soc] Gentoo Council App

[gentoo-soc] Gentoo Council App

[Joachim]

Hello,
I'm interested in creating Council web application.

I was reading log of the last council meeting and... if voting will be
held outside meetings maybe it's better to hold meeting on IRC. There
would be a bot that would log meeting ( and feed data about meeting to
web app). Web app would help with everything except meeting ( preparing
agenda, voting, preparing summaries, ...).

And now explaining with a little more detail.

1. Preparing agenda

Any developer could create a pending agenda item. Any developer may add
comments ( links, attachments, ...) and manage ( edit, remove...) stuff
[s]he added.

Council members may moderate discussion ( remove, make it council-only,
...). Council members may add created items to agenda for scheduled meeting.

After putting item on agenda it'd be possible to give some more info
about it ( voting possibilities, how long council wants to discuss it...).

Also there should be a list of regular agenda items ( decide when next
meeting will be held).

2. Meetings
If meetings were held on IRC channel bot would:
- Log meetings.
- Publish logs.

Also I think that it should be able to simply ( for members) tell bot
what happens ( eg. what topic is being discussed now). Then it'd be
possible to attach relevant part of logs to agenda items.

3. After meetings
App should:
- Publish ( raw) logs.
- Allow editing logs.
- Allow voting for specified time ( if developers decide that council
should vote after the meetings).
- After voting is finished prepare stub summary.

What do you think about it?

Have a good evening,
Joachim

Re: [gentoo-soc] Gentoo Council App

[Arun Raghavan]

Hi,

On 30 March 2010 02:32, Joachim <jbartosik@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm interested in creating Council web application.
>
> I was reading log of the last council meeting and... if voting will be
> held outside meetings maybe it's better to hold meeting on IRC. There
> would be a bot that would log meeting ( and feed data about meeting to
> web app). Web app would help with everything except meeting ( preparing
> agenda, voting, preparing summaries, ...).

Since this is a procedural matter that would need buy-in from the
council, are there any council members on this list?

I don't mean to discourage you, but have you seen
http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot? I think this is also a rather elegant
solution to the problem that doesn't require dramatic changes to how
we do things already.

Best,
-- 
Arun Raghavan
http://arunraghavan.net/
(Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) & (arunsr | GNOME)

Re: [gentoo-soc] Gentoo Council App

[Petteri Räty]

On 30.3.2010 12.01, Arun Raghavan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 30 March 2010 02:32, Joachim <jbartosik@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm interested in creating Council web application.
>>
>> I was reading log of the last council meeting and... if voting will be
>> held outside meetings maybe it's better to hold meeting on IRC. There
>> would be a bot that would log meeting ( and feed data about meeting to
>> web app). Web app would help with everything except meeting ( preparing
>> agenda, voting, preparing summaries, ...).
> 
> Since this is a procedural matter that would need buy-in from the
> council, are there any council members on this list?
> 

You could check who submitted the idea :)

> I don't mean to discourage you, but have you seen
> http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot? I think this is also a rather elegant
> solution to the problem that doesn't require dramatic changes to how
> we do things already.
> 

Good to know. The IRC side is not my main goal any way but at least we
have it done already.

Regards,
Petteri

Re: [gentoo-soc] Gentoo Council App

[Clemens Mayer]

I've just another question concerning this project:

The current application is using the Hobo-Framework. Does a potential
dev have to continue using this, or could he rewrite the app using
"standard" rails?

Regards,

Clemens

Re: [gentoo-soc] Gentoo Council App

[Petteri Räty]

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On 03/30/2010 03:55 PM, Clemens Mayer wrote:
> I've just another question concerning this project:
> 
> The current application is using the Hobo-Framework. Does a potential
> dev have to continue using this, or could he rewrite the app using
> "standard" rails?
> 

Here are the options:

1) Continue on top of hobo
2) Convince me that you will be maintaining it two years from now
3) Convince me why I want to maintain standard rails instead of hobo

A successful project will be improved for the years to come so long term
maintenance is important. I have done many projects using Hobo so I know
there's a learning curve but it's quite nice when you start to master it.

Regards,
Petteri


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Re: [gentoo-soc] Gentoo Council App

[Joachim]

On 03/30/2010 11:01 AM, Arun Raghavan wrote:
> I don't mean to discourage you, but have you seen
> http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot? I think this is also a rather elegant
> solution to the problem that doesn't require dramatic changes to how
> we do things already.

Thank you for that. The more knowledge about previous works on the topic
the better.

Good night,
Joachim