From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2WxF-0000lv-K8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:55:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 753E61C038; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com (mail-iw0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438101C038 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so12094640iwn.40 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:54:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:from:reply-to:to:in-reply-to:references :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=zwf05NRlb2i6OEhpo+cIIQI1V/zdWjcD014fystSPIw=; b=qUxcdiyLneJz8GZXnOUfvZ+OEyzHGu4z7KCcpNf53GgjOk4GBxOL2/she+758Xjz57 jVwTzdVh0xNZfYqiIhuHeUNr0DSFZs5EWglRZ5xu883Gxh3G1sjs7IrdudnAOjff9Tgy wBivACpqNbsQFeanA6EgVTDKZlfnJkobl1oS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:reply-to:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=ATVkVZK6Ze7vhxp4nxZWxPWk+GG3QxJFYJv7F3UVmiYL6J1BMu7yEj8w+j9YKwfQe7 vydpbZaHfVZyLgqqaqjoCqS4TyC84NXVw8YdciygsK089x2hzzwQsPB3TJW5ZrSZlWMb gvKKSe+E+So5HQLOHcKH5+JCFjtHzFAS02YPY= Received: by 10.43.60.70 with SMTP id wr6mr2523876icb.447.1300920887683; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.210] (xx65110024092.cipherkey.net [65.110.24.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s1sm2638287iba.24.2011.03.23.15.54.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-soc] GSoC - Package statistics From: Brian Dolbec To: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4D8A65BD.6010903@gmx.net> References: <4D87E1AC.1030201@gmx.net> <1300755118.31104.110.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> <820e13d818f9b5f7452706ff566c7563@basementcode.com> <1300769995.31104.137.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> <4D893A42.7020308@gmx.net> <1300861806.31104.172.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> <20110323134937.GB22830@comet.mayo.edu> <4D8A65BD.6010903@gmx.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-6sbf0aECRzqUodgvz1g7" Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:54:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1300920887.31104.220.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-soc@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 5647ef42e6622a1e95c03878020f65e7 --=-6sbf0aECRzqUodgvz1g7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 22:27 +0100, Michael Seifert wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > Am 23.03.2011 14:49, schrieb Donnie Berkholz: > > On 23:30 Tue 22 Mar , Brian Dolbec wrote: > >> On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 01:09 +0100, Michael Seifert wrote: > >>> I agree that a web-based querying tool/platform would be important. > >=20 > > I don't think it's critical to the project at all, for it to be useful= =20 > > to Gentoo developers. As a dev myself, I typically avoid things that= =20 > > require me to go to websites because it just takes longer. I use CLI= =20 > > interfaces to bugzilla, I read mailing lists and use text editors in a= =20 > > terminal, etc. > >=20 > > I'd like a simple CLI tool that just goes and grabs me the info about a= =20 > > given package, or shows me overall rankings for certain sets of package= s=20 > > (depending on specified queries). Perhaps a web-service (using REST or= =20 > > SOAP) would be more interesting to implement than an actual UI. Then= =20 > > anyone could tack a web-based UI on later. > >=20 > > Sure, a webapp might be nice for users, and perhaps for a few devs, but= =20 > > you could definitely propose a complete project without it. > >=20 >=20 > A web-service without UI sounds like good compromise to me :) >=20 > What I find a nice idea is that package maintainers can query users to > get feedback, as Brian suggested. However the extent of how much the > users are bothered should be measured carefully. Nobody wants annoying > popups to ask repeatedly about things you don't care much. That can be easily configured in a users preferences both globally and pkg specific. >=20 > Does anyone think that some advanced statistics are appreciated, for > example calculating package trends or determining correlations? Let me quote some of my original reply that seems to have been missed/forgotten: Most of the devs are cli die hards, so a simple command line interface to query the central database should be primary. I believe it would be more widely used for the ebuilds they maintain. A browser could be used to connect to it and get graphs, etc. for more elaborate info displays. =20 --=20 Brian Dolbec --=-6sbf0aECRzqUodgvz1g7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJNino3AAoJECIU2QoBTxfLmWoH/ib1hgvRZ4RPrEXEc4dm4TX+ D3c1nVLRPsPvTzOY4zx/9FXc/EDiSFNr7e8h2qAd72MiAWf2kPu31U8DT1RQ0CiP rvwsibfUCI3OsxRwRiU3ks/hQmRmcTyV4x0ScisyNxVrOus47l4RXTD3G/sa6bqZ utnA7lDgvc/SFFkJFmvGe+RX4QUjBpxU7gG3LjmVM33lzJO8fAAIVTMTravsYs9L x4tEhH1HF358GiaK0726OdWkpfnYPI2X4EutGUrsYgLDFgIcuarpt0lbxK1d7oIi 4DQ2pbeWvvnJvxIYGKUKgaXCoQbUehtp6oFrg6v7abE5lFCxIDYHf7b6u39/IQw= =jSHX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-6sbf0aECRzqUodgvz1g7--