From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QOnZD-0008Eu-6k for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 09:06:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 876C51C414 for ; Tue, 24 May 2011 09:06:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (unknown [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2251C00B for ; Tue, 24 May 2011 08:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f181.google.com ([209.85.210.181]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QOmrv-001qBX-DT for gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 15:21:35 +0700 Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so7005592iyb.40 for ; Tue, 24 May 2011 01:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.59.144 with SMTP id m16mr10681807ich.440.1306225291358; Tue, 24 May 2011 01:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.221.202 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2011 01:21:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 15:21:31 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] Managing multiple servers. From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 74ba4e9fedd2446bc9fe9f77ac33757d On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 14:37, Ramon van Alteren wrot= e: > Hey, > > This list seems to have woken up suddenly again, good news :) > About time, I should say... There have been.... let's say, 'doubts' as to the suitability of Gentoo as servers. > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 00:12, la Bigmac wrote: >> While I have a central emerge server (rsync) and sync all of my servers = to >> it I still manually update the packages. >> >> Example, openssh how should I be updating openssh on all of my servers o= ther >> than logging onto each one in turn and running emerge openssh. > > Puppet takes care of that for us and this is a major relief, =C2=A0having > useflag support in the puppet gentoo package provider would be nice, > but not really necessary. I'd prefer having useflag awareness in > binpkgs and the ability to produce different binpkgs for different > useflag sets in portage. > So, do you think it will be wise to create a management tool explicitly for Gentoo (with its quirks such as ~masks, USE flags, portage/env, and so-on), or just rely on Puppet? Rgds, --=20 Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com Google Talk:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 pepoluan Y! messenger: pepoluan MSN / Live:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 pepoluan@hotmail.com (do not send= email here) Skype:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 pe= poluan More on me:=C2=A0=C2=A0My LinkedIn Account=C2=A0 My Facebook Account