From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HqrDK-00000K-4q for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 13:49:18 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l4NDmiQO032480; Wed, 23 May 2007 13:48:44 GMT Received: from creativecommunications.com (creativecommunications.com [65.17.124.162]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l4NDkpUs030116 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 13:46:52 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by creativecommunications.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AB568C189 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 08:46:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at creativecommunications.com Received: from creativecommunications.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (creativecommunications.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ypi4-YHEEmZC for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 08:46:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.1.80] (unknown [192.168.1.80]) by creativecommunications.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F3F68C181 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 08:46:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <465445C8.2060304@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 08:46:48 -0500 From: Andrew Gaffney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070419) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-server@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] Best practices in managing large server groups References: <4650937E.80301@spamcop.net> <4652270A.7020906@vanalteren.nl> <4653203B.5020700@spamcop.net> <4653EF4B.4090800@vanalteren.nl> <46543382.1060707@gentoo.org> <46543BA9.1000304@vanalteren.nl> In-Reply-To: <46543BA9.1000304@vanalteren.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2c0a6198-8bd6-4f85-a361-5388eeb9c864 X-Archives-Hash: d398c955eae80ae2e03697c3bd98c8b7 Ramon van Alteren wrote: > Andrew Gaffney wrote: >> Ramon van Alteren wrote: >>> Well, basically he's right. Catalyst is a build tool that wraps all >>> the stuff you need to do when building packages in a chroot, with >>> some additional features >>> You don't need it.... it just saves time and a lot of work writing >>> your own scripts to manage the environment, and it's semi-maintained. >> >> You have an odd definition of "maintained". Chris (catalyst lead) and >> I (general code monkey) are actively working on catalyst. We just >> don't care much about features that don't directly benefit release >> building, since that's what catalyst's primary function is. If someone >> asks for a feature that doesn't affect building releases and submits >> code, we're very likely to throw it in. > Please, that's not what I meant, accept my apologies if that's what came > across. > > What I meant with semi-maintained is that it is maintained as an > internal tool for building gentoo-releases and not as a general > system-images buildtool. > Reading it again I should have said that more clearly, sorry. That's *very* different from "semi-maintained" :) -- Andrew Gaffney http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/ Gentoo Linux Developer Catalyst/Installer + x86 release coordinator -- gentoo-server@gentoo.org mailing list