From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Hqpzz-0007x8-OT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 12:31:28 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l4NCUqNZ019985; Wed, 23 May 2007 12:30:52 GMT Received: from agaffney.org (68-188-61-127.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [68.188.61.127]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l4NCSqPF017527 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 12:28:52 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.10] (kagome [192.168.0.10]) by agaffney.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62A21E00EB for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 07:28:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <46543382.1060707@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 07:28:50 -0500 From: Andrew Gaffney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070421) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-server@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] Best practices in managing large server groups References: <4650937E.80301@spamcop.net> <4652270A.7020906@vanalteren.nl> <4653203B.5020700@spamcop.net> <4653EF4B.4090800@vanalteren.nl> In-Reply-To: <4653EF4B.4090800@vanalteren.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3b553f82-3312-4fb9-a23e-4b43c3c71cd7 X-Archives-Hash: a11e9843463ddab3e8093c62d97bd6b7 Ramon van Alteren wrote: > Well, basically he's right. Catalyst is a build tool that wraps all the > stuff you need to do when building packages in a chroot, with some > additional features > You don't need it.... it just saves time and a lot of work writing your > own scripts to manage the environment, and it's semi-maintained. You have an odd definition of "maintained". Chris (catalyst lead) and I (general code monkey) are actively working on catalyst. We just don't care much about features that don't directly benefit release building, since that's what catalyst's primary function is. If someone asks for a feature that doesn't affect building releases and submits code, we're very likely to throw it in. -- Andrew Gaffney http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/ Gentoo Linux Developer Catalyst/Installer + x86 release coordinator -- gentoo-server@gentoo.org mailing list