From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GDSWo-0002VK-Oh for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:02:19 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k7GL1axH003073; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:01:36 GMT Received: from jareth.dreamhost.com (jareth.dreamhost.com [66.33.198.201]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7GKvuVV005849 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:57:56 GMT Received: from [10.72.42.126] (nat1.burbank.corp.yahoo.com [209.131.61.1]) by jareth.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EDE191180 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44E386FD.9090807@hyperreal.org> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:58:37 -0700 From: Mark Rudholm User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060516) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-server@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: baselayout was Re: [gentoo-server] Stable portage tree References: <200608160906.34604.jan.meier@zmnh.uni-hamburg.de> <44E37040.4060105@fixe-post.de> In-Reply-To: <44E37040.4060105@fixe-post.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 57c622b4-e1c0-441b-8dcb-f5ab57bb77a3 X-Archives-Hash: cbc348bba56717017d381b2412cdf63f Robert Welz wrote: > Jan Meier wrote: >> Hello, >> >> how is the status of the stable portage tree? Is it already available? >> I am really interested in it because I am tired of frequently updates >> on my server just because there is a new version. Doing only security >> update would be nice. >> >> Regards >> >> Jan > > I have noticed three updates to baselayout in three days. Is there a > real reason for that high frequency of updates? I have the problem of > etc-update on 14 servers and really could spend my time on something > more productive i.e. learning ldap, fixing sguile and debugging xen for > nfs. Now I fix all those init.d files all the day. The general complaint I'm hearing about Gentoo is the lack of configuration stability. Updates that aren't backward-compatible are a pain. I had to reboot a system that hadn't been booted in about a year and the modules didn't load because of the changes to modules.autoload. I've had to clean up Apache conf files 'cause they moved. I've had to deal with moving to the new "modular" xorg (and try to hunt down all the X tools I used to have). Not to mention the baselayout changes... I used to laugh at http://www.funroll-loops.org/ but lately it really does seem that the distro is being managed by those on the young side. Not that any other Linux distro is any better. I'm contemplating going back to BSD, which is my company's standard anyway. -Mark -- gentoo-server@gentoo.org mailing list