RE: [gentoo-server] webmail software

RE: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Jesse, Rich]

I had been using Squirrelmail for about two years and I decided I wanted
a little more integration with a calendar and addressbook and a
"prettier" or slightly more intuitive interface for my not-so-tecchie
wife.  And from a security standpoint, I require the wonderful ability
of Squirrelmail (can't remember if it's a plugin) to ignore downloading
external images, whose URLs can be encoded for spam lists.  Well so far,
I haven't found it.

I've tried Horde IMP, eGroupware, MoreGroupware, and a couple other
PHP-based ones and I prefer the speed and relative safety of
Squirrelmail.  After the rather heavy emerge of Horde and a config I
couldn't find a way to integrate the addressbook with it's email.  That
would seem to be pretty important, so I'm thinking it's something I'm
missing, but if something that necessary/basic is that difficult, it's a
red flag to me.

eGroupware's nice enough, but I don't like how it pulls external links
in via e-mail.  It's FeLaMiMail doesn't allow that, but that's also
lacking some basic functionality (e.g. ability to move a message to
another folder while viewing the message).  And FeLaMiMail doesn't play
nice with eG's built-in mail, at least with UW's IMAP and mbox (I'll
stand by while I'm ripped on for that decision ;).  Also, eG apparently
requires "mbstring.func_overload = 7" in the php.ini, which breaks other
PHP-based products I have, like Drupal.

I installed MoreGroupware, but for the life of me can't recall even what
it looks like.  I seem to remember some addressbook integration issues
or something, but don't quote me on that.  I'm guessing I wasn't
impressed...

I'm probably going back to Squirrelmail if I can get it to talk with
PostgreSQL properly (easier and more flexible setup, backup, and
recovery than MySQL).  In the meantime, I'd like to find another
web-mail alternative, preferrably in PHP so I can fix/improve some minor
things myself and because it's much "lighter" than Java (still haven't
found any Java-based program worth the hassle other than maybe Azureus).
I would like to try even something heavy like SuSE/Novell's OpenXchange,
but am a little hesitant to try Tomcat on my li'l home server with only
384MB of RAM...

If you find something "better" than Squirrelmail, let us know!

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: xyon [mailto:xyon@indigorobot.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:43 AM
To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software


I agree (about "better"), I should've been a bit more descriptive.

The only reason I haven't checked out horde-imp is there are so many
dependencies for it. Is it worth loading all that PEAR stuff?

Thanks for the suggestion!

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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Jeremy Brake]

I've also found Squirrelmail the most practical so far (despite a couple 
of minor niggles with it)
I've tried Imp3 a couple of times so far, but had issues with it, and 
got really annoyed at the lack of a folder list on the left (when I 
managed to get it to find my sub-folders)
I know the latest version of Imp has included the folder lists, and 
people are saying theres some speedups, which is great.. except its 
masked.. and i'm not too comfortable installing untested web applications.
Has anyone done a decent (independant) review of the latest Imp code? 
Could I feel safe installing it - from a security perspective?
Has anyone written a script or process for moving squirrelmail 
preferences and addressbooks (stored in MySQL) to Imp3?

Seeing as anyone hasnt mentioned it yet.. DONT consider SQWebMail. I've 
been forced to use it for certain mailboxes on a different server for 
the last couple of years, and it really is awful. Your users will hate you.
Theres also IlohaMail, but i wasnt overly impressed with that - I cant 
remember why. I've seen a few pretty webmail apps around, but most of 
them are still so early in production I dont feel comfortable trying them.

Jeremy B

Jesse, Rich wrote:

>I had been using Squirrelmail for about two years and I decided I wanted
>a little more integration with a calendar and addressbook and a
>"prettier" or slightly more intuitive interface for my not-so-tecchie
>wife.  And from a security standpoint, I require the wonderful ability
>of Squirrelmail (can't remember if it's a plugin) to ignore downloading
>external images, whose URLs can be encoded for spam lists.  Well so far,
>I haven't found it.
>
>I've tried Horde IMP, eGroupware, MoreGroupware, and a couple other
>PHP-based ones and I prefer the speed and relative safety of
>Squirrelmail.  After the rather heavy emerge of Horde and a config I
>couldn't find a way to integrate the addressbook with it's email.  That
>would seem to be pretty important, so I'm thinking it's something I'm
>missing, but if something that necessary/basic is that difficult, it's a
>red flag to me.
>
>eGroupware's nice enough, but I don't like how it pulls external links
>in via e-mail.  It's FeLaMiMail doesn't allow that, but that's also
>lacking some basic functionality (e.g. ability to move a message to
>another folder while viewing the message).  And FeLaMiMail doesn't play
>nice with eG's built-in mail, at least with UW's IMAP and mbox (I'll
>stand by while I'm ripped on for that decision ;).  Also, eG apparently
>requires "mbstring.func_overload = 7" in the php.ini, which breaks other
>PHP-based products I have, like Drupal.
>
>I installed MoreGroupware, but for the life of me can't recall even what
>it looks like.  I seem to remember some addressbook integration issues
>or something, but don't quote me on that.  I'm guessing I wasn't
>impressed...
>
>I'm probably going back to Squirrelmail if I can get it to talk with
>PostgreSQL properly (easier and more flexible setup, backup, and
>recovery than MySQL).  In the meantime, I'd like to find another
>web-mail alternative, preferrably in PHP so I can fix/improve some minor
>things myself and because it's much "lighter" than Java (still haven't
>found any Java-based program worth the hassle other than maybe Azureus).
>I would like to try even something heavy like SuSE/Novell's OpenXchange,
>but am a little hesitant to try Tomcat on my li'l home server with only
>384MB of RAM...
>
>If you find something "better" than Squirrelmail, let us know!
>
>Rich
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: xyon [mailto:xyon@indigorobot.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:43 AM
>To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org
>Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software
>
>
>I agree (about "better"), I should've been a bit more descriptive.
>
>The only reason I haven't checked out horde-imp is there are so many
>dependencies for it. Is it worth loading all that PEAR stuff?
>
>Thanks for the suggestion!
>
>  
>

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[gentoo-server] Apache configs? whats going on?

[Jeremy Brake]

Hey All,

I've been plodding through all the official docs, and came across the 
"Upgrade Apache" doc, here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/apache-upgrading.xml

This was probably all answered at the time, but I wasnt on the list to 
see it.
When did this change get announced?
What will happen if I dont revert back to an httpd.conf setup? ( I'm 
running 2.0.54-r8 )

Are there any slightly more verbose instructions for this? :
" If you have made changes to the previous default apache.conf and 
commonapache.conf you will need to migrate your changes to 
/etc/apache{|2}/httpd.conf. Also configuration locations for modules and 
virtual hosts have changed -- they are now located in 
/etc/apache2/modules.d and /etc/apache2/vhosts.d respectively."

..changes? I spent hours changing little bits and pieces, and I dont see 
an httpd.conf file anywhere. o_O
Will this do it?:
 cat /etc/apache2/conf/apache.conf > /etc/apache2/conf/httpd.conf
 cat /etc/apache2/conf/commonapache.conf >> /etc/apache2/conf/httpd.conf
 mv /etc/apache2/conf/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf/old_apache.conf
 mv /etc/apache2/conf/commonapache.conf 
/etc/apache2/conf/old_commonapache.conf
/etc/init.d/apache2 restart

Cheers
Jeremy B
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Re: [gentoo-server] Apache configs? whats going on?

[Michael Stewart (vericgar)]

Jeremy Brake wrote:
> Hey All,
> 
> I've been plodding through all the official docs, and came across the 
> "Upgrade Apache" doc, here:
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/apache-upgrading.xml
> 
> This was probably all answered at the time, but I wasnt on the list to 
> see it.
> When did this change get announced?
> What will happen if I dont revert back to an httpd.conf setup? ( I'm 
> running 2.0.54-r8 )

This document doesn't apply to you, yet.
The document applies to upgrading to what is currently unstable apache 
(2.0.54-r10 and above). In the next few weeks this will move into 
stable, and these instructions will need to be followed to upgrade 
without breaking your apache.

If you want to test the new-style apache, follow the instructions in 
that document starting at the top (including the part about 
package.keywords). If you run into problems, e-mail here, or join us on 
IRC irc.freenode.net #gentoo-apache

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RE: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Jesse, Rich]

Excellent!  I saw that shot but glossed over it because I was "in the
box" looking for screenshot of how Squirrelmail does it, replacing the
foreign image with it's own.

Thanks!
Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Webster [mailto:craig@xeriom.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 2:29 PM
To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software


On 21 Nov 2005, at 20:22, Jesse, Rich wrote:
> Anyone know if Zimbra and/or RoundCube can block external image/object
> loading from HTML messages like Squirrelmail does?  That's the main
> reason I haven't switched from Squirrelmail to something "prettier"  
> for
> my family.

Roundcube can. Check the screenshots page for the privacy protector  
-- that's stopping images being loaded.

Yours,
Craig
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RE: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Jesse, Rich]

Anyone know if Zimbra and/or RoundCube can block external image/object
loading from HTML messages like Squirrelmail does?  That's the main
reason I haven't switched from Squirrelmail to something "prettier" for
my family.

TIA,
Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Webster [mailto:craig@xeriom.net] 
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 2:22 PM
To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software


On 20 Nov 2005, at 20:15, Chris wrote:
> Craig Webster wrote:
>> We set it up as the default webmail client for Xeriom hosting and the
>> general response has been "OOO SHINY!!!"
> http://www.zimbra.com/
>
> looks very shiny too and i really like xtreme js, but have not tested
> this one yet...

Yea, Zimbra is a lot more feature-complete. We weren't looking to  
provide eg the calendar stuff; we just wanted an easy to use  
interface to the email accounts. Plus it looks quite a lot like the  
Apple Mail interface which is quite nice :)

Yours,
Craig

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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Ian P. Christian]

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On Monday 21 November 2005 20:22, Jesse, Rich wrote:
> Anyone know if Zimbra and/or RoundCube can block external image/object
> loading from HTML messages like Squirrelmail does?  That's the main
> reason I haven't switched from Squirrelmail to something "prettier" for
> my family.

RoundCube does, and does it in a pretty way too (very much in line with how 
tbird does it I think - a box a the top of the email warns 'remote images 
blocked for privacty, clikc here to see them' or something

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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Craig Webster]

On 21 Nov 2005, at 20:22, Jesse, Rich wrote:
> Anyone know if Zimbra and/or RoundCube can block external image/object
> loading from HTML messages like Squirrelmail does?  That's the main
> reason I haven't switched from Squirrelmail to something "prettier"  
> for
> my family.

Roundcube can. Check the screenshots page for the privacy protector  
-- that's stopping images being loaded.

Yours,
Craig
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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[xyon]

Alot of those terrific plugins don't work with php safe_mode enabled,
though (gpg, spellchecker, etc).

But the NewMail and other helpful plugins do work.

I've been using Squirrelmail only because there isn't a better alternative
out there, yet.


On Tue, August 30, 2005 11:56, Joby Walker wrote:
> I've been using squirrelmail for a few years to provide webmail for my
users (mostly friends), and in general it is pretty popular.  There is
also a large number of plugins to provide additional functionality
beyond just webmail.
>
> Joby Walker
> PGP key: https://staff.washington.edu/joby/joby-h-pub.asc
>
>
> Patrick McLean wrote:
>> Michael Irey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone, I am reviewing webmail software to be be installed in a
high use production environment.  The mail server is qmail with
vpopmail.
>>> I am looking for:
>>>  * stability
>>>  * security
>>>  * speed
>>>  * ability to change the look and feel
>>>  * overall features
>>>
>>> The ones I have reviewed so far are horde/imp, squirrelmail, and DWmail.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be great.
>>
>>
>> We are using squirrelmail with courier-imap to serve ~5000 users, it's
working great, haven't had any signifigant problems that I know of. (I
am not the administrator of the webmail, one of my coworkers deals with
that)
>>
>> I do administer a small mail server with squirrelmail, it works great
but we only have about 50 users on it. (though it is a Dual Pentium Pro
200)
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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

Has anyone tried phplymail? (or something like that). Looks nice and is 
actively developed.

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, xyon wrote:

>
> Alot of those terrific plugins don't work with php safe_mode enabled,
> though (gpg, spellchecker, etc).
>
> But the NewMail and other helpful plugins do work.
>
> I've been using Squirrelmail only because there isn't a better alternative
> out there, yet.
>
>
> On Tue, August 30, 2005 11:56, Joby Walker wrote:
>> I've been using squirrelmail for a few years to provide webmail for my
> users (mostly friends), and in general it is pretty popular.  There is
> also a large number of plugins to provide additional functionality
> beyond just webmail.
>>
>> Joby Walker
>> PGP key: https://staff.washington.edu/joby/joby-h-pub.asc
>>
>>
>> Patrick McLean wrote:
>>> Michael Irey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone, I am reviewing webmail software to be be installed in a
> high use production environment.  The mail server is qmail with
> vpopmail.
>>>> I am looking for:
>>>>  * stability
>>>>  * security
>>>>  * speed
>>>>  * ability to change the look and feel
>>>>  * overall features
>>>>
>>>> The ones I have reviewed so far are horde/imp, squirrelmail, and DWmail.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions would be great.
>>>
>>>
>>> We are using squirrelmail with courier-imap to serve ~5000 users, it's
> working great, haven't had any signifigant problems that I know of. (I
> am not the administrator of the webmail, one of my coworkers deals with
> that)
>>>
>>> I do administer a small mail server with squirrelmail, it works great
> but we only have about 50 users on it. (though it is a Dual Pentium Pro
> 200)
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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Andrew Cowie]

On Tue, 2005-30-08 at 12:14 -0400, xyon wrote:
> I've been using Squirrelmail only because there isn't a better alternative
> out there, yet.

"Better" is subjective, of course, but I would recommend Horde's IMP [1]
to you. It has a very clean, smooth interface and all the back-end
capability you'd ever want.

(I always found squirrelmail a bit... unpolished. Complete, perhaps, but
unpolished)

AfC
Sydney

[1]: http://www.horde.org/imp/

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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[xyon]

I agree (about "better"), I should've been a bit more descriptive.

The only reason I haven't checked out horde-imp is there are so many
dependencies for it. Is it worth loading all that PEAR stuff?

Thanks for the suggestion!

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 17:23 +1000, Andrew Cowie wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-30-08 at 12:14 -0400, xyon wrote:
> > I've been using Squirrelmail only because there isn't a better alternative
> > out there, yet.
> 
> "Better" is subjective, of course, but I would recommend Horde's IMP [1]
> to you. It has a very clean, smooth interface and all the back-end
> capability you'd ever want.
> 
> (I always found squirrelmail a bit... unpolished. Complete, perhaps, but
> unpolished)
> 
> AfC
> Sydney
> 
> [1]: http://www.horde.org/imp/
> 
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[gentoo-server] webmail software

[Michael Irey]

Hi everyone, I am reviewing webmail software to be be installed in a high use 
production environment.  The mail server is qmail with vpopmail. 

I am looking for:
 * stability
 * security
 * speed
 * ability to change the look and feel
 * overall features

The ones I have reviewed so far are horde/imp, squirrelmail, and DWmail.

Any suggestions would be great.

Thank you.


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System Administrator
Portland, Oregon
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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Jeff Rooney]

Michael Irey wrote:

>Hi everyone, I am reviewing webmail software to be be installed in a high use 
>production environment.  The mail server is qmail with vpopmail. 
>
>I am looking for:
> * stability
> * security
> * speed
> * ability to change the look and feel
> * overall features
>
>The ones I have reviewed so far are horde/imp, squirrelmail, and DWmail.
>
>Any suggestions would be great.
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>Michael Irey
>System Administrator
>Portland, Oregon
>http://www.sightworks.com
>
>
>
>  
>
Personally, I'm a big fan of the horde/imp combo, mostly for its 
features, speed, and stability. The horde group also has a solid support 
group in the event that you have any questions.

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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[kashani]

Michael Irey wrote:
> Hi everyone, I am reviewing webmail software to be be installed in a high use 
> production environment.  The mail server is qmail with vpopmail. 
> 
> I am looking for:
>  * stability
>  * security
>  * speed
>  * ability to change the look and feel
>  * overall features
> 
> The ones I have reviewed so far are horde/imp, squirrelmail, and DWmail.

	My old virtual system was running Squirrelmail, but on the new system 
we're running both Squirrel and Horde/IMP. Most customers seem to like 
the IMP interface better and its HTML mail support seems to work unlike 
SM. We will likely drop SM at some point in the future.
	If you do install both even if just for testing you should modify the 
preferences so that IMP and SM use the same folders. By default IMP uses 
sent-mail, drafts, and a trash folder feature is not on. I changed that 
to Sent, Drafts, and turned on Trash so that users switching between 
Thunderbird, SM, and IMP had the same folder setup. You'll also need to 
turn on HTML mail display in one of the conf files as well in IMP.
	I do find the folder setup in IMP a little funky to browse through, but 
that's really my only major complaint so far.

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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Pierre Cassimans]

>From: kashani <kashani-list@badapple.net>
>Reply-To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org
>To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org
>Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software
>Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:29:46 -0500
>
>Michael Irey wrote:
>>Hi everyone, I am reviewing webmail software to be be installed in a high 
>>use production environment.  The mail server is qmail with vpopmail.
>>
>>I am looking for:
>>  * stability
>>  * security
>>  * speed
>>  * ability to change the look and feel
>>  * overall features
>>
>>The ones I have reviewed so far are horde/imp, squirrelmail, and DWmail.
>
>	My old virtual system was running Squirrelmail, but on the new system 
>we're running both Squirrel and Horde/IMP. Most customers seem to like the 
>IMP interface better and its HTML mail support seems to work unlike SM. We 
>will likely drop SM at some point in the future.
>	If you do install both even if just for testing you should modify the 
>preferences so that IMP and SM use the same folders. By default IMP uses 
>sent-mail, drafts, and a trash folder feature is not on. I changed that to 
>Sent, Drafts, and turned on Trash so that users switching between 
>Thunderbird, SM, and IMP had the same folder setup. You'll also need to 
>turn on HTML mail display in one of the conf files as well in IMP.
>	I do find the folder setup in IMP a little funky to browse through, but 
>that's really my only major complaint so far.
>
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which version of Horde/Imp have you running? I have Imp 4.0.3 running and 
i'm feeling a big performance hit with this version over the old 3.x ones. 
Is there a big speed difference between SM and Horde/Imp?

Pierre Cassimans

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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Radu Herinean]

i've seen some big fat warnings about multiple vulnerabilities in the horde 
framework.  is that an old status that is no longer valid?

to also give some value to my posting: i am also looking into this matter, 
but i am looking for an alternative to SM.
so far i found http://ilohamail.org/ and openwebmail (masked in portage) 
that are worth considering.
iloha seems faster, i will have to check how it performs when used for all 
the domains hosted on that server.

regards.

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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software


>
>
>
>>From: kashani <kashani-list@badapple.net>
>>Reply-To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org
>>To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org
>>Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software
>>Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:29:46 -0500
>>
>>Michael Irey wrote:
>>>Hi everyone, I am reviewing webmail software to be be installed in a high 
>>>use production environment.  The mail server is qmail with vpopmail.
>>>
>>>I am looking for:
>>>  * stability
>>>  * security
>>>  * speed
>>>  * ability to change the look and feel
>>>  * overall features
>>>
>>>The ones I have reviewed so far are horde/imp, squirrelmail, and DWmail.
>>
>> My old virtual system was running Squirrelmail, but on the new system 
>> we're running both Squirrel and Horde/IMP. Most customers seem to like 
>> the IMP interface better and its HTML mail support seems to work unlike 
>> SM. We will likely drop SM at some point in the future.
>> If you do install both even if just for testing you should modify the 
>> preferences so that IMP and SM use the same folders. By default IMP uses 
>> sent-mail, drafts, and a trash folder feature is not on. I changed that 
>> to Sent, Drafts, and turned on Trash so that users switching between 
>> Thunderbird, SM, and IMP had the same folder setup. You'll also need to 
>> turn on HTML mail display in one of the conf files as well in IMP.
>> I do find the folder setup in IMP a little funky to browse through, but 
>> that's really my only major complaint so far.
>>
>>kashani
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>
> which version of Horde/Imp have you running? I have Imp 4.0.3 running and 
> i'm feeling a big performance hit with this version over the old 3.x ones. 
> Is there a big speed difference between SM and Horde/Imp?
>
> Pierre Cassimans
>
> Pierre Cassimans
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Dan Noe]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 08:56:02PM +0200, Radu Herinean wrote:
> to also give some value to my posting: i am also looking into this matter, 
> but i am looking for an alternative to SM.
> so far i found http://ilohamail.org/ and openwebmail (masked in portage) 
> that are worth considering.
> iloha seems faster, i will have to check how it performs when used for all 
> the domains hosted on that server.

http://www.roundcube.net/ is a new project that shows significant
promise.

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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Craig Webster]

On 20 Nov 2005, at 18:59, Dan Noe wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 08:56:02PM +0200, Radu Herinean wrote:
>> to also give some value to my posting: i am also looking into this  
>> matter,
>> but i am looking for an alternative to SM.
>> so far i found http://ilohamail.org/ and openwebmail (masked in  
>> portage)
>> that are worth considering.
>> iloha seems faster, i will have to check how it performs when used  
>> for all
>> the domains hosted on that server.
> http://www.roundcube.net/ is a new project that shows significant
> promise.

I'll second roundcube. It's not perfect yet, but it's getting there  
pretty fast :)

We set it up as the default webmail client for Xeriom hosting and the  
general response has been "OOO SHINY!!!"

Yours,
Craig
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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Chris]

Craig Webster wrote:

> On 20 Nov 2005, at 18:59, Dan Noe wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 08:56:02PM +0200, Radu Herinean wrote:
>>
>>> to also give some value to my posting: i am also looking into this 
>>> matter,
>>> but i am looking for an alternative to SM. 
>>
>
> We set it up as the default webmail client for Xeriom hosting and the 
> general response has been "OOO SHINY!!!"
>
http://www.zimbra.com/

looks very shiny too and i really like xtreme js, but have not tested
this one yet...

>
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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Craig Webster]

On 20 Nov 2005, at 20:15, Chris wrote:
> Craig Webster wrote:
>> We set it up as the default webmail client for Xeriom hosting and the
>> general response has been "OOO SHINY!!!"
> http://www.zimbra.com/
>
> looks very shiny too and i really like xtreme js, but have not tested
> this one yet...

Yea, Zimbra is a lot more feature-complete. We weren't looking to  
provide eg the calendar stuff; we just wanted an easy to use  
interface to the email accounts. Plus it looks quite a lot like the  
Apple Mail interface which is quite nice :)

Yours,
Craig
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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[A. Khattri]

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Michael Irey wrote:

> Hi everyone, I am reviewing webmail software to be be installed in a high use
> production environment.  The mail server is qmail with vpopmail.
>
> I am looking for:
>  * stability
>  * security
>  * speed
>  * ability to change the look and feel
>  * overall features

We are using squirrelmail to serve about 3100 accounts. Similar to your
setup (qmail + vpopmail) - the only difference being that we have almost
everything in a MySQL database (incl. SM preferences, address books, etc).


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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Patrick McLean]

Michael Irey wrote:
> Hi everyone, I am reviewing webmail software to be be installed in a high use 
> production environment.  The mail server is qmail with vpopmail. 
> 
> I am looking for:
>  * stability
>  * security
>  * speed
>  * ability to change the look and feel
>  * overall features
> 
> The ones I have reviewed so far are horde/imp, squirrelmail, and DWmail.
> 
> Any suggestions would be great.

We are using squirrelmail with courier-imap to serve ~5000 users, it's 
working great, haven't had any signifigant problems that I know of. (I 
am not the administrator of the webmail, one of my coworkers deals with 
that)

I do administer a small mail server with squirrelmail, it works great 
but we only have about 50 users on it. (though it is a Dual Pentium Pro 200)
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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Joby Walker]

I've been using squirrelmail for a few years to provide webmail for my
users (mostly friends), and in general it is pretty popular.  There is
also a large number of plugins to provide additional functionality
beyond just webmail.

Joby Walker
PGP key: https://staff.washington.edu/joby/joby-h-pub.asc


Patrick McLean wrote:
> Michael Irey wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone, I am reviewing webmail software to be be installed in a
>> high use production environment.  The mail server is qmail with vpopmail.
>> I am looking for:
>>  * stability
>>  * security
>>  * speed
>>  * ability to change the look and feel
>>  * overall features
>>
>> The ones I have reviewed so far are horde/imp, squirrelmail, and DWmail.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be great.
> 
> 
> We are using squirrelmail with courier-imap to serve ~5000 users, it's
> working great, haven't had any signifigant problems that I know of. (I
> am not the administrator of the webmail, one of my coworkers deals with
> that)
> 
> I do administer a small mail server with squirrelmail, it works great
> but we only have about 50 users on it. (though it is a Dual Pentium Pro
> 200)
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Re: [gentoo-server] webmail software

[Tim Igoe]

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Patrick McLean wrote:
> Michael Irey wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone, I am reviewing webmail software to be be installed in a
>> high use production environment.  The mail server is qmail with vpopmail.
>> I am looking for:
>>  * stability
>>  * security
>>  * speed
>>  * ability to change the look and feel
>>  * overall features
>>
>> The ones I have reviewed so far are horde/imp, squirrelmail, and DWmail.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be great.
> 

Try looking into Horde (and Horde-imp which is the mail module for horde).

I use this system on a few servers I admin - its gone down well with all
the users, especially when I added the extra modules like tasks, notes,
address book, calendar

I especially like the front page when you login - customisable with
blocks of information from the above sections and also rss feeds.

> 
> We are using squirrelmail with courier-imap to serve ~5000 users, it's
> working great, haven't had any signifigant problems that I know of. (I
> am not the administrator of the webmail, one of my coworkers deals with
> that)
> 
> I do administer a small mail server with squirrelmail, it works great
> but we only have about 50 users on it. (though it is a Dual Pentium Pro
> 200)

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