From: Tanner Danzey <arkaniad@gmail.com>
To: Brian Kroth <bpkroth@gmail.com>
Cc: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] Git as backup tool
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:39:49 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1320194389.6317.1.camel@Scythe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111102001935.GM11848@gmail.com>
On Tue, 2011-11-01 at 19:19 -0500, Brian Kroth wrote:
Not to mention finding a previous snapshot.
"deffee46b0ef8c504498a002443ab23019ee0cc9" isn't really a very good
indicator of when said backup was taken. :P
> Tanner Danzey <arkaniad@gmail.com> 2011-11-01 18:50:
> > Generally, using git is a bad idea for backups (from what I've read)
> >
> > git stores it's data uncompressed and inefficiently. If you are backing
> > up things like configuration files or web pages that can change a lot,
> > sure, but for storing binary files with git, I'd recommend against it,
> > since binaries vary greatly from version to version (unlike text files)
> > and you'd just accumulate tons of useless binaries. programs like
> > duplicity and rsync are great for backups, though.
>
> Agreed. There are lots of other spin offs, each with their own pros and
> cons: rsnapshot, rdiff, etc. I personally use some homegrown perl,
> rsync, and zfs snapshots (transparent compression, dedup, each snapshot
> looks like a full backup, etc.). I'm sure you could use something like
> btrfs in that scheme as well.
>
> However, using git, hg, svn, whatever, for storing your config file
> repositories for something like cfengine, puppet, whatever is a good
> idea, but that's a different issue than backups.
>
> > in all, the drawbacks outweigh the benefits of using a code management
> > tool to back up entire systems...
> >
> > On Tue, 2011-11-01 at 23:16 +0200, Andrey Utkin wrote:
> >> Hi all! Long live the gentoo masters!
> >> I'd like to hear from anybody who uses (or tried) git on production
> >> servers for saving the points of possible restore. Please, share your
> >> practices, like commit patterns, .gitignore contents, etc. I've begun
> >> to use it a couple of days ago for that, and pointed out some issues.
> >> I control the whole root fs with git.
> >> The problematic part is bunch of files that update frequently, but i
> >> am not familiar with them and i'm not sure if system will load without
> >> them.
> >> Namely, these are files in /usr/lib64/portage/pym/
> >> Also wtmp, utmp files hurt - likely without them box won't boot, but
> >> they shouldn't be in git control, too, coz they update often.
> >> Thus, backup restoring requires not git repo only, but also some tar of base?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-02 0:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-01 21:16 [gentoo-server] Git as backup tool Andrey Utkin
2011-11-01 21:23 ` Dmitriy Petrov
2011-11-01 23:50 ` Tanner Danzey
2011-11-02 0:19 ` Brian Kroth
2011-11-02 0:39 ` Tanner Danzey [this message]
2011-11-02 2:06 ` Dmitriy Petrov
2011-11-02 3:29 ` Tanner Danzey
2011-11-02 1:21 ` Stefan Behte
2011-11-02 2:08 ` Tanner Danzey
2011-11-02 8:09 ` Andrey Utkin
2011-11-02 10:10 ` Ciprian Dorin Craciun
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