From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qst7H-0002GU-MY for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:05:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55B5321C3DE; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A229221C0DE for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.142] (helo=smtp11.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qst6W-0002En-W4 for gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:05:05 +0200 Received: from 5ed027a1.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.208.39.161] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp11.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qst6U-0002C7-8j for gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:05:02 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F7D70E for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:08:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IbkC-N+V+f5v for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:08:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www.antarean.org (net.antarean.org [10.10.11.5]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEDBCF9 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:08:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 10.10.11.1 (SquirrelMail authenticated user joost) by www.antarean.org with HTTP; Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:08:30 +0200 Message-ID: <091acc52f031e1c76e7bb25ffe5931de.squirrel@www.antarean.org> In-Reply-To: References: <1963791.8iNc2QZtyT@eve> <36488487.HyIKE3pFTv@eve> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:08:30 +0200 Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] Re: Xen Dom0 using kernel 3.0 From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Qst6U-0002C7-8j X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-1.729, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -1.90, KHOP_DYNAMIC 0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.81) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: joost@antarean.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 1448d511653e9e04fc6bdbdc71a048c0 On Mon, August 15, 2011 8:18 am, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 02:29, Joost Roeleveld wro= te: >> On Sunday, August 14, 2011 07:20:18 PM Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> On 2011-08-14, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >> >>> (Sorry for top-posting. Gmail Java mobile client sucks.) >> >> (Fixed this for you) >> >>> I was thinking of something similar to XCP ... but with Gentoo as the >>> Dom0. I'll call it GeDZux (Gentoo Domain Zero Linux) :P >> >> A different name would be prefered by myself, not got an idea yet >> though. >> > > No worry. I know it sounds too... wishy-washy/unserious. > > Had originally wanted to call it "Xentoo", but some might mistake it > for Xen2, or worse Xen 2.0. > > Ah well... We'll think of something later :-) Xentoo doesn't sound too bad, actually. >>> The problem would be how to 'streamline' the installation of a >>> GeDZux-based Xen Platform. The SysAdmin already has lots of things to >>> think about; he/she doesn't need to think (too much) about which USE >>> flags to use, what CFLAGS to put in, which packages to emerge >>> *initially*, etc. >> >> I agree, tools to quickly generate/close new domUs based on templates >> would >> help as well. With different options for where the disks are stored: >> - File >> - LVM >> - physical partitions > > By domU here, do you mean Gentoo domU's or general domU's? Any domU. As far as I am aware, any domU can be configured to use any block-backend for the partitions/drives. > Citrix XenServer's 'template' feature comes to mind... Along with cloning/copying/export/....? VMWare ESX has similar options. >>> That is, how to provide sensible defaults yet not irreversibly >>> removing Gentoo's freedom. So, GeDZux will be a Gentoo variant, a >>> 'submetadistro', if you will :P >> >> A profile putting all the necessary tools (xen, kernel, bridge,....) a= s >> required. > > Aha! Good idea. Let me learn how to make a profile then. That way we can also set default USE-flags suitable for when using Xen. -- Joost