From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22180 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2004 13:16:28 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Nov 2004 13:16:28 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CRsKq-0001H1-4I for arch-gentoo-security@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:16:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 1528 invoked by uid 89); 10 Nov 2004 13:16:06 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-security-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-security@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 26546 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2004 13:16:06 +0000 From: Andreas Waschbuesch Organization: GAUniversity Goettingen To: gentoo-security@lists.gentoo.org Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:15:55 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <20041110020620.F1ADE2B3DB@smtp.istop.com> <1100091284.10299.19.camel@cobra> <20041110125531.GA13071@aeon.user.lan.at> In-Reply-To: <20041110125531.GA13071@aeon.user.lan.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5594216.SRXDAdDfo9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411101416.03782.awaschb@gwdg.de> X-Spam-Level: + X-Spam-Report: Content analysis: 1.8 points, 6.0 required 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address [217.228.251.32 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 1.7 RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL RBL: NJABL: dialup sender did non-local SMTP [217.228.251.32 listed in combined.njabl.org] X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie X-AUTH-Id: awaschb Subject: Re: [gentoo-security] Re: Out of air X-Archives-Salt: 3cbe2d5d-9800-499a-8b8d-848846b1be92 X-Archives-Hash: 8e1ae584918a51b429c5a08eadaa02b9 --nextPart5594216.SRXDAdDfo9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline epistula illius Klaus Wagner profluit verbis: > [...] > Security, is not only signation and cryptography. > When it comes to signation, I have to trust every point > in the process, and I don't trust cronjobs and "in memory" > passphrases, or even worse unprotected private keys. > > regards klaus =46ull ACK. Some people pointed this out before (more or less specific). Bu= t=20 it's no use discussing the everlasting myth of "partial security" and=20 "substituting" trust here. The main purpose of those initiating threads=20 _seems_ to be something completely different. Greets - Andy =2D-=20 Andreas Waschbuesch, GAUniversity KG MA FNZ FK01 eMail: awaschb@gwdg.de Nobody really knows what happiness is, until they're married. And then it's too late. --nextPart5594216.SRXDAdDfo9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBBkhSTwGaWYjpgASMRAsjDAKCTtkXooNqAdtxq+NLm26tkzCADWgCg3A3v P7VcdQImneHLIKrDTNEZOvA= =++9R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5594216.SRXDAdDfo9--