From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-security-return-1494-arch-gentoo-security=gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: (qmail 25515 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2004 17:26:58 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Nov 2004 17:26:58 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CQqoc-0007Lw-7T for arch-gentoo-security@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 17:26:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 422 invoked by uid 89); 7 Nov 2004 17:26:36 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-security-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-security@gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-security-help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-security-unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-security-subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-security.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-security@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 1557 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2004 17:26:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 11:26:29 -0600 From: Barry.Schwartz@chemoelectric.org Cc: gentoo-security@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <20041107172629.GA29564@crud.crud.mn.org> References: <418D310B.6050106@ahsoftware.de> <87sm7lvm17.fsf@peti.cryp.to> <20041107154034.242838cb.Ballarin.Marc@gmx.de> <87hdo1u1a3.fsf@peti.cryp.to> <20041107180004.31d27abe.Ballarin.Marc@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041107180004.31d27abe.Ballarin.Marc@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: [gentoo-security] Re: Is anybody else worried about this? X-Archives-Salt: b1987b61-7ed5-450b-b643-95a3bd163802 X-Archives-Hash: 617a4fee3177eb0d79c40fb30b374674 Marc Ballarin <Ballarin.Marc@gmx.de> wrote: > The further problem is responsibility. A source package on an external > project's server is trojaned. A Gentoo developer signs the ebuild and > the source code. The trojan is discovered. Now, what should happen? > The developer has claimed implicitly, through his signature, that the > package is correct. > What do you do? Call the developer a liar, just lazy, or do you even > understand and accept the situation? > In any case, you can no longer trust this developers signature, in fact > you never could. Not so. Either you can't trust the developer, in which case his or her signature _can_ be trusted (within reason) as an indication of trouble; or it's just one of those things. Everyone makes a mistake now and then, and no cryptography can stop that. And at least you know (within reason) where the package came from, making analysis after the fact simpler. -- Barry.Schwartz@chemoelectric.org http://www.chemoelectric.org If nothing is beneath them, and they control the machines of election, and if we know these things, then what fools are we who accept the election and plan for another like it? -- gentoo-security@gentoo.org mailing list