From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1P1imU-00035V-Pe for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 16:48:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43A95E095B; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-px0-f181.google.com (mail-px0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C32E095B for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi5 with SMTP id 5so2030173pxi.40 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 09:47:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MV3T1aNX5nhHR3f/o6u1KbEsK7QLBlVfv6cQSz1xNC4=; b=B60bNhfzSv6JDJo3MtUBtJclWORcWyQ55mypVvmxT4JYvH02L3pKyTlGoaYntcNMIC wY4esdqaDvRA4DpL4Z4qfoKptBKjbOPgIUXl9TCDuE58Ar6MOaqr3N+kS9znXeENEGzI Z6CKd7TELdm+XZrn3jM3b5E5urpAOpReVScsM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=l7EyPy9fudY/WLGfVHXHKsLuAioqQeBmkdpa/rzt5IOkxBJZUg1bmQOwtN1W0D65mr dOEioxgRRi4roXaLkFNM/FhAiVyd0TWAvUudfifze6QVWiU5dKqxxfOOkmtlyIjrmIOF qu98QY+h1twuNlkvq1EsWUEc/wXKA8EKNH59A= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.209.10 with SMTP id h10mr4906585wfg.256.1285951668490; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 09:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: sebfabbro@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.191.72 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:47:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101001070909.GK8106@denkmatte.Speedport_W_502V_Typ_A> References: <20100924145444.GH4272@denkmatte.mittag-leffler.se> <201009262114.22434.f.r.bissey@massey.ac.nz> <20101001070909.GK8106@denkmatte.Speedport_W_502V_Typ_A> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:47:48 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: KvSN75FI291SV3x4FkJQzb2igEs Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-science] RFC sci-mathematics/axiom From: =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien_Fabbro?= To: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 15f519a7-7e1c-4e99-afa5-bcd8297f3f91 X-Archives-Hash: 5cd6130528bab714f59aa44fd39b184a Thomas Kahle wrote: > I'm in contact with Tim Daly now, who seems very interested in getting > axiom to work on Gentoo. The main problem that I see here, and also with > the developers of Macaulay 2, is that upstream often does not feel any > urge to unsplit their build systems. They just build internal copies of > whatever they need. =C2=A0So here with axiom it is that the already inter= nal > gcl builds an internal gmp and upstream would like it better to apply > our gentoo patches to that internal gmp instead of making it work with > system wide gmp. =C2=A0I find it hard to communicate that internal copies= are > evil(TM). =C2=A0How do you guys handle that ? You can always point to one of the numerous flameeyes blog post [1] against bundled libraries, but I'm sure you can come up with a more concise explanation. [1] http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/03/23/bundling-libraries-the-curse-of-the= -ancients --=20 S=C3=A9bastien