From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF08E1381F1 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2018 09:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBC25E0930; Sat, 20 Jan 2018 09:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pg0-x233.google.com (mail-pg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A443EE0930 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2018 09:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg0-x233.google.com with SMTP id c194so3285119pga.12 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2018 01:59:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=YLK72m51k1qIM/FFQP8m/aFkBl2TnIn328K9MQBI6Ec=; b=CX9LPcwb5+Wwo1jImjrIX7djEnuiXVuZZBlod03n4NSWXmYZIjY15hCGaHR0ndZ0uz BZXWIYgFeNdGLcwUl+JHQNvZtK0GFIcFuNqUj0PdV8F46eJhQTDnjRf9PO4ONFmu+1wi FUqmAmssEvBbOtKV9Hp80MU7jOuQlilYbQqcH7XwdZaDqZnfhnf3ES+ky8vYdmb8QD0p pi4J0Xv+RGTYzxcoJZvVSpK3l7E/1wcOzBdR+v3SQau2O9H1DC5O6PZ3ugRhzYe2MjUf yRHiJowNNJxJ7kN6fEEZoje29pwt5PTZVNCJ8s9CCrzbsXiNYBlWE3EhmNz9wmSzVyc7 vQFw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=YLK72m51k1qIM/FFQP8m/aFkBl2TnIn328K9MQBI6Ec=; b=fqZH3jQC2jzoxNc3jTrzMAUFoJJ/NT7FuRjmI8wFUIM57ngIY/ckCHNwZut3A9ws2F JesDCBDkTmTed3pXD2KRpYtV6nr8CJT6kff15X39bd/PRHRaCEgNNilMQJtBu+QmP7Sm 2kIoDpypSrZ4IbuG78UNYye48/quDIN667TNZ6eIJVdxzfQvX/51XsChOidw4mKq0+Tu Xd3E9e+j3rb4gHMK3yFKTcrKAMaXfFpVD33rEPQXBeB562DQMx1QxGzlAd1Ys9+OYrm5 o+jE5Y9QfwP0lbvOpL3ZklT8afUzJDN/6YZQpKxIrJHsV0Nst4Ix10M8JEMRU7+uoNbf E7vg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytdRhJfXNQXhDnTiHk29Y6Mb8tokOnKaAUW+IEw4GPHsBRj6bmS1 /3E05/jDjNEQ/oekFfu5NewZqfxM X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x227l2efJ/nR7JDb10Gu0sJaBazY3m0HTwlOAlXgrfYRU3VNvEuyIte/tCYiRBjg72NlUfgbi8g== X-Received: by 10.98.14.3 with SMTP id w3mr1730621pfi.154.1516442346112; Sat, 20 Jan 2018 01:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([101.98.43.104]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t22sm16808827pfi.118.2018.01.20.01.59.04 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Jan 2018 01:59:05 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Bissey?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Subject: Re: [gentoo-science] [sage-on-gentoo] Sage without Java Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 22:59:01 +1300 References: <20180113103931.3621493ed642e16dbe970a8b@ukr.net> To: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <30EA2FD4-4E31-4D42-9923-2ADF3E7D5C93@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) X-Archives-Salt: e31f3df3-eeb9-4e39-ba34-431234efaebe X-Archives-Hash: ee601da6fae739f877a83693978d1a5c I don=E2=80=99t know the time frame yet but it should be possible to use = tachyon=20 instead of jmol if it isn=E2=80=99t available so I may look into that. = But I cannot promise you to land this in sage-8.2. Fran=C3=A7ois > On 13/01/2018, at 21:49, Fran=C3=A7ois Bissey = wrote: >=20 > Hi Vladimir, >=20 > This is unfortunately due to sage=E2=80=99s direct dependency to = =E2=80=9Cjmol=E2=80=9D > (sage-jmol-bin these days) it used to be only a dependency=20 > through the sage-notebook with the flag java. But sage uses jmol > directly for 3D plots as its default backend. I, and others - > including the people maintaining sage in debian - wish it weren=E2=80=99= t > so :( Mostly because we have a very low opinion about jmol from > a packaging perspective. > It may be possible to use something else for 3D plots and make > jmol optional but that=E2=80=99s work I am not quite ready to commit = to. >=20 > Fran=C3=A7ois >=20 >> On 13/01/2018, at 21:39, v_2e@ukr.net wrote: >>=20 >> Hello! >>=20 >> Today I noticed that upgrading sci-mathematics/sage pulls the Java >> development kit. Is there a way to install Sage without all that >> Java-related stuff if I do not wish to have that on my system? >>=20 >> Regards, >> Vladimir >>=20 >> -----=20 >> >>=20 >=20 >=20