[gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[Peter Gantner]

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Hello!

I am sorry if this is the wrong list to post this, but gentoo bugzilla 
seems even less appropriate?.

I keep getting the attached install error from sage from sage-on-gentoo.
(Warning: 12MB uncompressed!)

Is that a known problem, and how do I get around it?

More generally, what is the preferred way to report 
errors/successes/improvements ffor this overlay?

Thanks,
   Peter

-- 
Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know,
I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems.
    -- Jamie Zawinski

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Re: [gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[François Bissey]

> Hello!
> 
> I am sorry if this is the wrong list to post this, but gentoo bugzilla
> seems even less appropriate?.
> 
> I keep getting the attached install error from sage from sage-on-gentoo.
> (Warning: 12MB uncompressed!)
> 
> Is that a known problem, and how do I get around it?
> 
> More generally, what is the preferred way to report
> errors/successes/improvements ffor this overlay?
> 
Hi Peter,

we are thinking of creating a specific mailing list. In the meantime
here and bugzilla as well as private communication with me or
Christopher are appropriate.
Not seen that before, what is the version of python you use?
emerge --info could be good as well.

Francois

Re: [gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[Denis Dupeyron]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:03 AM, François Bissey
<f.r.bissey@massey.ac.nz> wrote:
> we are thinking of creating a specific mailing list. In the meantime
> here and bugzilla as well as private communication with me or
> Christopher are appropriate.

Creating another mailing list might seem appropriate but it scatters a
thin crowd even more. It doesn't look like the science mailing list is
so busy that the conversation you're having is a problem. Actually it
makes it look alive.

That said, bugs should go to bugzilla for a number of reasons.
Bugzilla allows more than just reporting, which is what Peter just
did. It also allows people to track issues, cooperate, follow-up on
the fixes etc... You can attach pretty big reports to bugs. In case
your attachment was too big you might want to try and reduce it (or
compress it more), or host it somewhere else. Although in the latter
case there's always a chance that your file may vanish in the long run
and that's suboptimal.

Denis.

Re: [gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[François Bissey]

> Creating another mailing list might seem appropriate but it scatters a
> thin crowd even more. It doesn't look like the science mailing list is
> so busy that the conversation you're having is a problem. Actually it
> makes it look alive.

Yes I know what you mean by "thin crowd" and "make it look alive".
My idea for a mailing list in this case would also be to invite people
working on a similar line in other distros to try to foster collaboration.
I am not completely sure that's a good idea but I know there are a
few other people packaging sage on distros and our voices are not
necessarily caring much weight individually.

Francois

Re: [gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[Peter Gantner]

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Hi Francois,

Weel, I'll leave the discussion of my failure on here for the time being 
then.

Hodie pr. Kal. Mar. MMX AUC  quidam 'François Bissey' inquit:

> Not seen that before, what is the version of python you use?
> emerge --info could be good as well.

Python is:
* dev-lang/python-2.6.4-r99
    Install date: Fri Jan 29 19:08:38 2010
    USE="ipv6 sqlite ssl tk --berkdb -build -doc -elibc_uclibc -examples -gdbm -+ncurses -+readline -+threads -+wide-unicode -wininst -+xml"
    CFLAGS="-O2 -march=nocona -mtune=native -pipe -w -fomit-frame-pointer -momit-leaf-frame-pointer"

which is from sage-on-gentoo.

emerge --info is attached.

Let me know whatever info you need more.

Greets,
   Peter G.

-- 
Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know,
I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems.
    -- Jamie Zawinski

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Re: [gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[Denis Dupeyron]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Peter Gantner
<peter.gantner@edu.uni-graz.at> wrote:
>   CFLAGS="-O2 -march=nocona -mtune=native -pipe -w -fomit-frame-pointer
> -momit-leaf-frame-pointer"

Just a quick note. You don't need -momit-leaf-frame-pointer when you
have -fomit-frame-pointer. The latter does what the former does and
more. It's almost certainly not what's causing your problem though.

Denis.

Re: [gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[François Bissey]

> Hi Francois,
> 
> Weel, I'll leave the discussion of my failure on here for the time being
> then.
> 
> Hodie pr. Kal. Mar. MMX AUC  quidam 'François Bissey' inquit:
> > Not seen that before, what is the version of python you use?
> > emerge --info could be good as well.
> 
> Python is:
> * dev-lang/python-2.6.4-r99
>     Install date: Fri Jan 29 19:08:38 2010
>     USE="ipv6 sqlite ssl tk --berkdb -build -doc -elibc_uclibc -examples
> -gdbm -+ncurses -+readline -+threads -+wide-unicode -wininst -+xml"
> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=nocona -mtune=native -pipe -w -fomit-frame-pointer
> -momit-leaf-frame-pointer"
> 
> which is from sage-on-gentoo.
> 
> emerge --info is attached.
> 
> Let me know whatever info you need more.
> 
Hi Peter,

I didn't get any clue from all of that. Have you also tried to install
sage-4.3.3 the traditional way? That is getting the sources from 
sagemath.org and going "make install" on them. 
At this stage it would be good to know if that works so we can figure
out if it is a sage bug or a sage-on-gentoo bug.
Note that you don't have to download sage-4.3.3.tar as it should 
already be in your distfiles.

Francois

Re: [gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[Christopher Schwan]

Hi Peter,

On Monday 01 March 2010 18:50:32 Peter Gantner wrote:
> Hi Francois,
> 
> Weel, I'll leave the discussion of my failure on here for the time being
> then.
> 
> Hodie pr. Kal. Mar. MMX AUC  quidam 'François Bissey' inquit:
> > Not seen that before, what is the version of python you use?
> > emerge --info could be good as well.
> 
> Python is:
> * dev-lang/python-2.6.4-r99
>     Install date: Fri Jan 29 19:08:38 2010
>     USE="ipv6 sqlite ssl tk --berkdb -build -doc -elibc_uclibc -examples
> -gdbm -+ncurses -+readline -+threads -+wide-unicode -wininst -+xml"
> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=nocona -mtune=native -pipe -w -fomit-frame-pointer
> -momit-leaf-frame-pointer"
> 
> which is from sage-on-gentoo.
> 
> emerge --info is attached.
> 
> Let me know whatever info you need more.
> 
> Greets,
>    Peter G.

you could try to compile Sage with portage's original python:

emerge -1 =dev-lang/python-2.6.4-r1
emerge sage

Cheers,

Christopher

Re: [gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[Peter Gantner]

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Kal. Mar. MMX AUC quidam/quædam/quoddam 'Christopher Schwan' inquit:

> Hi Peter,
>
> On Monday 01 March 2010 18:50:32 Peter Gantner wrote:
>> Hi Francois,
>>
>> Weel, I'll leave the discussion of my failure on here for the time being
>> then.
>>
>> Hodie pr. Kal. Mar. MMX AUC  quidam 'François Bissey' inquit:
>>> Not seen that before, what is the version of python you use?
>>> emerge --info could be good as well.
>>
>> Python is:
>> * dev-lang/python-2.6.4-r99
>>     Install date: Fri Jan 29 19:08:38 2010
>>     USE="ipv6 sqlite ssl tk --berkdb -build -doc -elibc_uclibc -examples
>> -gdbm -+ncurses -+readline -+threads -+wide-unicode -wininst -+xml"
>> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=nocona -mtune=native -pipe -w -fomit-frame-pointer
>> -momit-leaf-frame-pointer"
>>
>> which is from sage-on-gentoo.
>>
>> emerge --info is attached.
>>
>> Let me know whatever info you need more.
>>
>> Greets,
>>    Peter G.
>
> you could try to compile Sage with portage's original python:
>
> emerge -1 =dev-lang/python-2.6.4-r1
> emerge sage

Ah, the simple solution worked! Python from portage did the trick.

I don't know why I never tried that, I guess because I thought if 
there's a version in the overlay it will have some stuff patched in 
which is required by sage.

Abyway If you can think of something I can do to narrow down the problem 
with the overlay version let me know.

Now I shall test out my brand new sage install!

Thanks,
   Peter



-- 
Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know,
I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems.
    -- Jamie Zawinski

Re: [gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[François Bissey]

> > you could try to compile Sage with portage's original python:
> > 
> > emerge -1 =dev-lang/python-2.6.4-r1
> > emerge sage
> 
> Ah, the simple solution worked! Python from portage did the trick.
> 
> I don't know why I never tried that, I guess because I thought if 
> there's a version in the overlay it will have some stuff patched in 
> which is required by sage.

Yes it does have stuff required by sage. However the current 
python-2.6.4-r99 is based on python-2.6.4 not 2.6.4-r1.
When I tried to bump to r1 it caused problems for a number of
people. If it is now working I will bump it.

Thanks for trying that.

Francois

Re: [gentoo-science] Sage build failure (off-topic?)

[François Bissey]

Python patch set now bumped in line with the new stable python.
Can the people who had problems with it before try again.
(yes that means you Steven).


Francois