[gentoo-science] Scientific Gentoo reorg: lets get it moving

[gentoo-science] Scientific Gentoo reorg: lets get it moving

[George Shapovalov]

Hi gang

It looks like we got all the coments we could get, so lets get done with it 
then. What's left is minor legwork that is best done by the maintainers of 
the individual herds, here is the approximate list:

Herds:

0. If you feel you did not polish up the idea of a particular herd or category 
enough and you have not created a bug for it (blocking #138049, the tracker) 
I suggest you finally do it - it will become much more apparent then what to 
do..

0.5 Decide on the herd name.

1. Edit gentoo/misc/herds.xml and add the entry for the corresponding herd, 
listing developers who ended up maintaining it.

2. Adjust metatdata.xml files for the packages that should belong to it (the 
ones in the corresponding category are of course prime candidates, but dont 
forget to check sci-libs as well and check if there any others outside that 
you are aware of).

3. Create an alias for this new herd. It is probably best if the alias matches 
the name of the herd - bugwranglers will have no problem assigning the bugs 
then..
The aliases are on dev.g.o under /var/mail/alias (your dev login will allow 
you to access/modify them) and I would encourage the maintainers of these 
herds to create these aliases, so that you have more controll over your mails 
and I do not screw up (and not end up with people asking me for a trivial 
modifications many month aft the reorg :)).

Caterogies:

Looks like right now only sci-crystallography could make sense, as there are 
enough people and packages behind it.

sci-proof - saw some activity but I understand that most of the proposed 
packages are not in the tree yet. May start as a herd and transition to the 
category when enough packages go in..

sci-physics - many packages were listed, so a candidate, but I did not get a 
clear impression of how "finalized" the idea was and how many people finally 
decided to stay behind it.

George
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Re: [gentoo-science] Scientific Gentoo reorg: on herd naming

[George Shapovalov]

The herd naming issue has surfaced in more detail again - there were already 
two comments that it is beneficial to keep -sci in herd names. I originally 
suggested that we drop it (and in general go with a "catchier" names), but 
now it looks like I am slowly turning towards being more conservative 
myself :). That is to keep sci- and possibly resembel category names as much 
as possible. The reasoning: making life easier on bug wranglers and on 
everybody trying to search for the sci-related maintaince info or just to see 
the relationship between different packages.. Any thoughts?

(A comment towards users, as they seemed to react to this issue more then devs 
last time. This is a completely internal stuff that you are not supposed to 
see or care about, unless you are willing to become a developer and maintain 
packages of course ;). This does not concern how the categories are named 
(nothing happens there actually, well, except for a few possible splits)).

Anyway, I'd say it is best for the actual maintainers to decide for every 
herd. However if we have upwards of two herds retaining sci or following 
category naming I think it makes sense for all to keep it all consistent and 
follow..

George
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-science] Scientific Gentoo reorg: on herd naming

[Donnie Berkholz]

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George Shapovalov wrote:
> The herd naming issue has surfaced in more detail again - there were already 
> two comments that it is beneficial to keep -sci in herd names. I originally 
> suggested that we drop it (and in general go with a "catchier" names), but 
> now it looks like I am slowly turning towards being more conservative 
> myself :). That is to keep sci- and possibly resembel category names as much 
> as possible. The reasoning: making life easier on bug wranglers and on 
> everybody trying to search for the sci-related maintaince info or just to see 
> the relationship between different packages.. Any thoughts?

As I said on the bug, I don't really think this makes sense.
metadata.xml will show either 'electronics' or 'sci-electronics',
however you name it. You can use herdstat or many other tools to display
things in many different ways related to package maintainers/herds/etc.
Naming herds after categories doesn't really make sense when there isn't
a 1-to-1 mapping of herds and categories.

Thanks,
Donnie


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