From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fuc81-0005GI-Ky for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:26:50 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5PLNTVc025760; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:23:29 GMT Received: from web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.186]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5PLNRXp024835 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:23:27 GMT Received: (qmail 59321 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jun 2006 21:23:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bk2aYkIC/yneq6pxWa7FfiEqnJiTqznLDRTrLRZoMr+cF2MyXSu0qrbVlEC0+momWz7TQ1q7FG91hzlZ+UMuPMTc4ThNqDGRbsfhZ3L1ml0wetML01ohGeFCc4yxrtpAnypZ/r5FYlqf9rk6CkZpsB1FzwKcwLuEBvyG8qUBn+k= ; Message-ID: <20060625212325.59317.qmail@web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.161.120.182] by web31706.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:23:25 PDT Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:23:25 -0700 (PDT) From: C Y Subject: Re: [gentoo-science] Scientific Gentoo reorg: the proposal To: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200606252046.03386.george@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-science@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 9e851c8c-3a76-494b-bd8f-702cee9c72ca X-Archives-Hash: 40bb048416fa23e4d4734de8281fc593 --- George Shapovalov wrote: > sci-mathematics: 34 > Ok size. There were calls to split it into symbolic and numeric, also > -proof was suggested (but I understand the packages for that one are > not in the tree yet). 3-tier categories might be nice here :) (as in > sci-math-symbolic, sci-math-numeric..). devs: > plasmaroo, agriffis?, mattam, cryos, ribosome?, markusle, spock, > phosphan As to the sci-proof suggestion, I have discussed ebuilds with the Isabelle mailing list and they do not seem to be in favor of it. Apparently the work flow for that tool is such that they prefer to maintain everything in a user level directory, as a monolithic whole. I don't know how other projects (HOL, etc.) feel about it. > sci-visualization: 20 > Ok size, may be combined with -calculators? or -math? (herding, if it > makes sense, category should stay), devs: > markusle, phosphan, ribosome, cryos, kugelfang, latexer?, j4rg0n?, > corsair?, spyderous I'd say keep this category, personally. > Furthere, > sci-cad was suggested and it looks like there may be a critical mass > of > 5 packages, but more planning is necessary on this one.. I was able to kludge together a functional brl-cad ebuild, and I know qcad has been in there for ages. Most of the other options will need ebuilds written. Whoever writes the one for SALOME will need to be good. > There were talks about creating sci-physics category, however I > cannot find traces of that atm (or was it on irc?). If there really > are apps for sci-physics it can start combined with sci-astronomy (or > not, need a list of packages..) Physics packages (not all of which may be in gentoo at the moment) mpb (mit photonic bands - does have ebuild) root (in sci-libs, maybe it should stay there?) geant4 http://geant4.web.cern.ch/geant4/ (it can be installed on Gentoo but no ebuild yet) (other stuff from http://lcgapp.cern.ch/project/ is probably of interest) http://fermitools.fnal.gov/abstracts/transport/abstract.html http://fermitools.fnal.gov/abstracts/turtle/abstract.html There are other tools of interest here: http://fermitools.fnal.gov/categories/index.html but I suspect many of them have a wider application that just physics Other possibilities: http://www.freehep.org/ - probably a lot that might be included here. http://wwwasd.web.cern.ch/wwwasd/paw/ The license is a bit wonky but there is this: http://www.physics.cornell.edu/sss/ Doubtless there are others I am not familiar with. Outside of the HEP world there is less that is free, but oh well. > Any comments on the structure? Also, while sci-xxx is a "natural" > name for the > category (considering our present layout) it is somewhat cumbersome > for the > herd. I guess sci- part may be dropped, then, should the rest stay > spelled > out or people would prefere shortcuts, like math for mathematics, > etc? Personally I would rather keep the sci- prefix, just to keep all the science related software alphabetically together, but I know that's a silly reason. Out of curosity, how is it cumbersome for the herd? Cheers, CY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-science@gentoo.org mailing list