From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FuZfT-00009O-MW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:49:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5PIkGBu010143; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:46:16 GMT Received: from mbox.unige.ch (mbox.unige.ch [129.194.9.209]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5PIjucC000322; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:45:56 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.mbox.unige.ch by mbox.unige.ch (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.03 (built Jun 27 2005)) id <0J1F00001GXZ3200@mbox.unige.ch> (original mail from george@gentoo.org) ; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:45:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aldar ([85.218.15.159]) by mbox.unige.ch (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.03 (built Jun 27 2005)) with ESMTPSA id <0J1F007SQISIWT40@mbox.unige.ch>; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:45:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:46:02 +0200 From: George Shapovalov X-Face: 4Rd)1/:bMGRby_[I4NY3u,g|=7e?V_VX?tkj,_ct-U4B#_-EEu_/wyvCWFsvDa}LP_Rk2%phL7r5%sxXze`X/A_:8tz&|"*2^="\ZFo3&+'UGNhVu#]g [<<~4glvaJa'ZEXW_#@LWa,OhxVN"r|/1P:`IL8=rciHKGxevczUO{X!r%,a Subject: [gentoo-science] Scientific Gentoo reorg: the proposal To: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-id: <200606252046.03386.george@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Linux Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-science@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Comment: This message was scanned against viruses by mbox.unige.ch. User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 X-Archives-Salt: 7fa1ef85-f57b-49ce-9b63-8976aded4715 X-Archives-Hash: cfd9ea2576b13170c3f687a30a4e94fe First, thanks to everybody who responded! (not that tehre were many ;)). Interestingly, the most positive result so far seems to be two people expressing interest to join :), so we need at least one more mentor I'd say.. I'll start by refreshing general changes that were proposed: 1. Make Scientific Gentoo a top-level and create subprojects - this did not seem to get any complaints. So, when we are done with the mainpart I'll try to update the page, like move it to a proper location, redo the blurb and provide links to subprojects. Then I'll ask corresponding teams to produce some descriptions for the corresponding subprojects (its the same .xml essentially, just change the description paraagraph). But lets first get done with the reorg itself.. 2. Create smaller, topical herds to split 316 packages we have under sci right now. - Looks like most people assumed a natural herding of packages by categories (of course sci-libs should not be a separate herd, packages under it should fall under whatever makes sense), so lets try to start by creating a layout that follows. Here are the categories, as they stand now: aldar portage # for fn in sci-*; do echo "$fn: $(ls -1 $fn|wc -l)"; done sci-astronomy: 11 sci-biology: 58 sci-calculators: 26 sci-chemistry: 50 sci-electronics: 34 sci-geosciences: 8 sci-libs: 62 sci-mathematics: 34 sci-misc: 19 sci-visualization: 20 Further is based on a quick glance at ChangeLog's (since I did not get much responce from actual mainatiners ;), so I may have missed somebody/listed somebody extra. Please check and comment accordingly) sci-astronomy: 11 an Ok size I'd say, devs: morfic, phosphan, zx, ribosome, aliz, corsair, mr_bones_ sci-biology: 58 rather large, may be worth splitting more, no particular suggestions yet though, devs: ribosome, blubb, corsair, j4rg0n, mcummings, sediener, pbienst, apokorny, hansmi?, phosphan, lostlogic? sci-calculators: 26 split off math at some point IIRC (or was that a discussion that it should be separate and it started like that from the inception?). size: Ok, devs: centic?, cryos, ribosome, spyderous?, many people who appear one or twice.. sci-chemistry: 50 may be worth splitting up as well. One suggestion is to make a category for sci-crystallography. I seem to have persuaded Jan Marten Simons to at least try :). If he indeed is willing to take on this subject it may be well worth creating this category, or at least herd.. devs: spyderous, markusle?, phosphan, marcus, hannes, ribosome?, kugelfang, agriffis, hansmi? sci-electronics: 34 Ok size, devs: calchan, chrb?, agriffis?, phosphan, ribosome, blubb?, plasmaroo, hansmi, cryos?, gustavoz? sci-geosciences: 8 good size (for maintainers :)), devs: ribosome, spyderous, cryos, nerdboy, mholzer? sci-mathematics: 34 Ok size. There were calls to split it into symbolic and numeric, also -proof was suggested (but I understand the packages for that one are not in the tree yet). 3-tier categories might be nice here :) (as in sci-math-symbolic, sci-math-numeric..). devs: plasmaroo, agriffis?, mattam, cryos, ribosome?, markusle, spock, phosphan sci-misc: 19 Size is Ok, but, if we follow the idea, should probably stay under sci (herd) devs: cryos, hansmi?, phosphan, ribosome, kugelfang?, pbienst, blubb? sci-visualization: 20 Ok size, may be combined with -calculators? or -math? (herding, if it makes sense, category should stay), devs: markusle, phosphan, ribosome, cryos, kugelfang, latexer?, j4rg0n?, corsair?, spyderous Furthere, sci-cad was suggested and it looks like there may be a critical mass of > 5 packages, but more planning is necessary on this one.. There was a suggestion for sci-phonetics or sci-linguistics. There is a dev (translator's team, so he will need to be mentored for the "generic development") who is willing to take on those, however I first need to see how many packages would be there. If anything it will be good to have him as a part of the team, even if this does not qualify for a full category (but still should be good for herd I guess..) There were talks about creating sci-physics category, however I cannot find traces of that atm (or was it on irc?). If there really are apps for sci-physics it can start combined with sci-astronomy (or not, need a list of packages..) Any comments on the structure? Also, while sci-xxx is a "natural" name for the category (considering our present layout) it is somewhat cumbersome for the herd. I guess sci- part may be dropped, then, should the rest stay spelled out or people would prefere shortcuts, like math for mathematics, etc? George -- gentoo-science@gentoo.org mailing list