From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IhjIs-0003VR-4c for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:05:34 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with SMTP id l9G9sUuC003849; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:54:30 GMT Received: from smtp1.ist.utl.pt (smtp1.ist.utl.pt [193.136.128.21]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l9G9sTQd003844 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:54:30 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCC1700139E for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:54:30 +0100 (WEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.4.2 (20060627) (Debian) at ist.utl.pt Received: from smtp1.ist.utl.pt ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.ist.utl.pt [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id qMSJUuE7I1VQ for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:54:28 +0100 (WEST) Received: from mail.ist.utl.pt (mail.ist.utl.pt [193.136.128.8]) by smtp1.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id A847F70015D4 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:54:27 +0100 (WEST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (unknown [89.181.34.103]) by mail.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C99F1400085 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:54:17 +0100 (WEST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-science] sci team help From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= Fabbro To: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20071016072030.GS23990@supernova> References: <1192473542.9282.74.camel@zeca> <20071015201410.GJ23990@supernova> <20071016072030.GS23990@supernova> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-5Ybq3ED5EdfnRziNhYX+" Organization: Gentoo Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:54:11 +0100 Message-Id: <1192528451.5412.63.camel@zeca> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-science@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 X-Archives-Salt: a2412f94-7310-4b87-93d7-b43d0bc1e101 X-Archives-Hash: 2155221daea04e345928f7c986a7c31e --=-5Ybq3ED5EdfnRziNhYX+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 00:20 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 12:01 Tue 16 Oct , Andrey G. Grozin wrote: > > The original cryos' idea when he created the science overlay was a plac= e to=20 > > develop ebuilds until they become mature enough to be moved to the main= =20 > > tree (I can dig his original post about this subject). He suggested tha= t=20 > > ebuilds whould, in most cases, be moved to the main tree quickly enough= . >=20 > OK, sure, but historic reasons are not future reasons. If things should=20 > change, this is not a reason to hold it back. >=20 These days, the overlay is more of a sandbox for devs and a place to ease package transition from bugzilla to the tree. Why some packages are still in the overlay rather than in the main tree to me is only a matter of manpower. Hopefully some day Gentoo will get more modular- right now our cvs repository is gigantic and as you all know this means more inertia.=20 > > 1. Inform users *prominently* that some interesting packages don't live= in=20 > > the main portage tree (currently, not many users know this). >=20 > Yep. >=20 Well anyone who has commit access to the overlay is welcome to add anything relevant to the wiki trac page. > - Is it expected to be fairly popular, or is it extremely specific? It's hard to judge this. We have the CC and votes at bugs.gentoo.org, but as useful as bugzilla could be, it is not the zen-est interface. Many times I feel that our tendency to resolve all issues with bugzilla reduces productivity both for bugs reporters and bugs resolvers. Anyway it is nice to see the science project is generating interest. -- S=C3=A9bastien --=-5Ybq3ED5EdfnRziNhYX+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHFIpD1ycZbhPLE2ARAspAAJ9D6rnUQCLv5puVcjk+MgmXlWcHYACeIYAR ki0lWhk9CXZVrCaD658dmd0= =kKjT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5Ybq3ED5EdfnRziNhYX+-- -- gentoo-science@gentoo.org mailing list