[gentoo-releng] Re: Call for feature request for 2008.0

[gentoo-releng] Re: Call for feature request for 2008.0

[Nikolić Milan]

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And what do you say about midnight commander on minimal cd, ok, live cd has
gui file managers, I never use it anyway but what about minimal? I use
systemrescuecd only because of this....

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Re: [gentoo-releng] Re: Call for feature request for 2008.0

[Matthew]

On Feb 1, 2008 10:14 AM, Nikolić Milan <gen2brain@gmail.com> wrote:
> And what do you say about midnight commander on minimal cd, ok, live cd has
> gui file managers, I never use it anyway but what about minimal? I use
> systemrescuecd only because of this....
>

mc would be really nice, another app users use pretty often is net-irc/irssi ,
I'm however missing support for ntfs3g, sys-process/htop is a must for
management of tasks
some pc magazines are proclaiming the gentoo livecd as a recue-media
so inclusion for
cryptsetup, dosfstools, testdisk/photorec, sdparm, smartmontools,
hddtemp would also be great

if they fit on the (non-minimal) livecd dev-util/git, subversion, cvs
& friends are very helpful if you need something in the beginning from
an overlay or the gentoo cvs / svn servers

thanks :)
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Re: [gentoo-releng] Re: Call for feature request for 2008.0

[Rémi Cardona]

Matthew a écrit :
> On Feb 1, 2008 10:14 AM, Nikolić Milan <gen2brain@gmail.com> wrote:
>> And what do you say about midnight commander on minimal cd, ok, live cd has
>> gui file managers, I never use it anyway but what about minimal? I use
>> systemrescuecd only because of this....
>>
> 
> mc would be really nice, another app users use pretty often is net-irc/irssi ,
> I'm however missing support for ntfs3g, sys-process/htop is a must for
> management of tasks
> some pc magazines are proclaiming the gentoo livecd as a recue-media
> so inclusion for
> cryptsetup, dosfstools, testdisk/photorec, sdparm, smartmontools,
> hddtemp would also be great

Guys, have you forgotten you were talking about the "minimal" live cd? 
Which is exactly what its name says it is : minimal. Only the critical 
stuff needed to install Gentoo.

If you want more stuff, there's always the regular live cd, which is 
also there for exactly this reason :)

Cheers,

Rémi
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Re: [gentoo-releng] Re: Call for feature request for 2008.0

[Matthew]

>
> Guys, have you forgotten you were talking about the "minimal" live cd?
> Which is exactly what its name says it is : minimal. Only the critical
> stuff needed to install Gentoo.
>
> If you want more stuff, there's always the regular live cd, which is
> also there for exactly this reason :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rémi
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>
>

yeah, hm, sorry, the topic didn't say minimal cd ;)

at least cryptsetup should be included additionally on the minimal cd
(if not already) otherwise I have no access to my data (config files,
etc) during installation
I'm sure there are others who need it, too

Mat
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Re: [gentoo-releng] Re: Call for feature request for 2008.0

[Andrew Gaffney]

Nikolić Milan wrote:
> And what do you say about midnight commander on minimal cd, ok, live cd 
> has gui file managers, I never use it anyway but what about minimal? I 
> use systemrescuecd only because of this....

No, we're not adding "random" apps to the minimal, especially something so very 
unnecessary.

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Re: [gentoo-releng] Re: Call for feature request for 2008.0

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 10:14 +0100, Nikolić Milan wrote:
> And what do you say about midnight commander on minimal cd, ok, live
> cd has gui file managers, I never use it anyway but what about
> minimal? I use systemrescuecd only because of this....

The minimal CD should be minimal.  Unless it's firmware/drivers, I'm not
likely to add anything here.

Also, why don't you use the LiveCD ISO if you're already grabbing
systemrescuecd?  You *can* boot the ISO without X and you *can* use it
without using the Installer, you know.  ;]

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Games Developer

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Re: [gentoo-releng] Re: Call for feature request for 2008.0

[Chris Gianelloni]

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Guys, *PLEASE* make sure you're not requesting things which we already
ship.

Thanks

On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 10:25 +0100, Matthew wrote:
> I'm however missing support for ntfs3g, sys-process/htop is a must for
> management of tasks

Hrrmn... file a bug for ntfs3g (assign to release@gentoo.org) and I'll
add it.  What's htop?  Actually, file a bug for it, too.

> cryptsetup, dosfstools, testdisk/photorec, sdparm, smartmontools,
> hddtemp would also be great

Done, Done, Done/Not Done, Done, Done, Not Done...

We already ship most of these.  Please try to keep comments to things we
*don't* already do.

> if they fit on the (non-minimal) livecd dev-util/git, subversion, cvs
> & friends are very helpful if you need something in the beginning from
> an overlay or the gentoo cvs / svn servers

We had cvs/subversion already, but not git.  Could you (or anyone) file
a bug for that, please?

Thanks,

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Games Developer

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Re: [gentoo-releng] Re: Call for feature request for 2008.0

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 10:26 +0100, Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Guys, have you forgotten you were talking about the "minimal" live cd? 
> Which is exactly what its name says it is : minimal. Only the critical 
> stuff needed to install Gentoo.

When he said "LiveCD" I assumed that he meant the LiveCD.  The minimal
CD is not and never has been suitable for a rescue CD except in the
simplest of cases.

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Re: [gentoo-releng] Re: Call for feature request for 2008.0

[Markus Hauschild]

+1 on sys-process/htop its really useful imo

On Feb 1, 2008 6:12 PM, Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > I'm however missing support for ntfs3g, sys-process/htop is a must for
> > management of tasks
>
> Hrrmn... file a bug for ntfs3g (assign to release@gentoo.org) and I'll
> add it.  What's htop?  Actually, file a bug for it, too.

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[gentoo-releng] Call for feature request for 2008.0

[Brent Baude]

Chris,

Please consider the following.  The bit about the apps is basically what 
others are suggesting.


Please consider the following for the tester checklist:

+ Did the network auto-configure as expected?

+ Some systems has multiple methods for connecting to the console, like 
serial, hvc, hvsi.  Did these alternative consoles work as expected?

+ Did you see any references to older releases in any messages or media?


And then you might want to add a question/section for application 
testing on the media.


+ If you tested a livecd/dvd, did Firefox, Audacious, xchat, pidgin, etc 
work?

^^ What I am getting at is whether we should have a core set of
applications that get tested.

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Re: [gentoo-releng] Re: Call for feature request for 2008.0

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 19:26 +0100, Markus Hauschild wrote:
> +1 on sys-process/htop its really useful imo
> 
> On Feb 1, 2008 6:12 PM, Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > I'm however missing support for ntfs3g, sys-process/htop is a must for
> > > management of tasks
> >
> > Hrrmn... file a bug for ntfs3g (assign to release@gentoo.org) and I'll
> > add it.  What's htop?  Actually, file a bug for it, too.

Can someone go and file bugs (one bug each package) for all of the
packages that I've agreed to already?

Also, the call for feature requests is now over, since the snapshot is
coming today.  For any bugs that are filed today, even ones for packages
in ~arch, I'll speak with the maintainers and see if it is a candidate
for stable/inclusion.

So get those bugs in!!!

(Please?!)

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