From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21040 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2004 16:31:42 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (128.193.0.39) by eagle.gentoo.oregonstate.edu with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Apr 2004 16:31:42 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([128.193.0.34] helo=eagle.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BJavN-00086h-Ni for arch-gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:31:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 28358 invoked by uid 50004); 30 Apr 2004 16:31:41 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-releng-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail Reply-To: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-releng@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 25122 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2004 16:31:41 +0000 In-Reply-To: <1083296324.8841.122.camel@woot.uberdavis.com> References: <1083296324.8841.122.camel@woot.uberdavis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Pieter Van den Abeele From: Pieter Van den Abeele Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:31:39 +0200 To: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Subject: Re: [gentoo-releng] 2004.2 planning X-Archives-Salt: e187ed78-ac92-4623-97ce-d70d7098f06d X-Archives-Hash: ae84a3d2fe6918998086431cd0b39d7b A few words of caution for 2004.2: EXAMS EXAMS EXAMS On 30 Apr 2004, at 05:38, John Davis wrote: > 2004.1 did amazingly well. We didn't implement a single feature request, so it should be taken with a grain of salt. > In my time at Gentoo, I have never seen a release go so well. What > we did for 2004.1 was truly amazing work - each of you should be proud > as hell about what we got accomplished in that short amount of time. I would like to see that reflected a bit more in the press release for upcoming 2004.2. Nobody reads those boring release notes right now, they are hidden somewhere on the releng page and not linked from the press release. I'm not very inclined to keep writing them if livecds on the mirrors are not updateded (a simple typo in the bootloader config) when I have bugfixed (corrected typo) ones available. Another example: nobody knows there are optimized G5 32bit stages, that we've released a first experimental ppc64 livecd... If we don't say we're the first, then another distro will. > Okay, so here is the breakdown: > > To address #1 I have built a month+ of QA time into 2004.2 (please see > the link at the bottom for the link to the preliminary 2004.2 page). I need two weeks (8 days building, 2 days uploading) for building and releasing the ppc preliminary release (assuming no bugs occur). All features need to be completed by the 14th, and I'll take a snapshot from the building tool on the 14th, that leaves 4 days to actually implement and QA any new feature requests, because we're only deciding upon new feature requests on may 10th. Please also note that I have some developers in training that are crucial for 2004.2. These people will most likely become dev when the release has been build. > #3 is all plasmaroo and the genkernel team. Please contact him ASAP > with > your bugs - he is lightning quick about patches to fix problems :) genkernel is a bottleneck, because a new release is needed for each kernel we make a livecd .config for. And ppc has a lot of kernels to support (3x POWER, G3,G4,G5, pegasos, amiga, chrp, prep, oldworld) = 32bit + 64bit = G5, POWER I'd prefer to have kernel-sources with livecd config as default or something like that (see arch/ppc/configs/* in your kernel sources) For pegasos we need to be able to produce a all-in-one file. dholm has patches We are intending to migrate our kernel stuff to kernel-2.eclass, johnm got the roadmap. The developer who is going to do that is currently in training, and will therefore not be able to do so before the release is build. > Okay, the schedule for 2004.2 is much more lax than 2004.1. Please take > the time to look over the 2004.2 info sheet linked from the bottom of > this mail and provide me with some feedback with regard to the > schedule. > Again, I want to make this release as low stress as possible, so let me > know if I can adjust the schedule in any way to help complete this goal > :) see above Isn't it possible to just update the stages and GRP? I see no reason to make 4 full releases a year. (Actually I do see some, but not really flattering ones). > Ok, the last thing in this long e-mail (I swear :) is the feature > request. Please see the mail that I am going to send to -core and -dev. > Basically, I am going to field some feature requests and then hold a > meeting with all of you on releng to see what requested features are > feasible. I will keep you posted. Preferably as few as possible. >EXAMS< > Again, awesome job on 2004.1! Let's do the same and even more with > 2004.2. > > Cheers, > //zhen > > Link to the 2004.2 page: > http://nue.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.2/2004.2.xml > > -- > John Davis > Gentoo Linux Developer > > > ---- > GnuPG Public Key: > Fingerprint: 2364 71BD 4BC2 705D F338 FF70 6650 1235 1946 2D47 > -- gentoo-releng@gentoo.org mailing list