From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB9CD138334 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFBE6E0845; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout06.plus.net (avasout06.plus.net [212.159.14.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BE59E0845 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.6.147] ([212.159.46.162]) by smtp with ESMTP id ced0fzdzhWLW2ced1fy0VF; Mon, 09 Jul 2018 23:27:33 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=fJUXI6Se c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=RuViaDnnNG9rfPLW4VJocg==:117 a=RuViaDnnNG9rfPLW4VJocg==:17 a=13zjGPudsaEWiJwPRgMA:9 a=0Kts0tkuCJBeXbFuGW4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=s9AYPXmF2fwr1qpuVvYA:9 a=ONNS8QRKHyMA:10 Subject: [gentoo-releng] Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20180709172136.GA17068@linux1.home> <1531161811.1159.13.camel@gentoo.org> <20180709201113.GB17593@linux1.home> <1531167218.1159.15.camel@gentoo.org> <20180709211410.GA17986@linux1.home> <2f7c8b18-8c5d-2931-14a7-9d6d1e00526d@gentoo.org> <29b55e16-bb2e-5a98-13e2-e1482441b417@gentoo.org> Cc: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org From: "M. 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J. Everitt" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <8b47a97d-37be-652a-0298-7e7082506b53@iee.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree References: <20180709172136.GA17068@linux1.home> <1531161811.1159.13.camel@gentoo.org> <20180709201113.GB17593@linux1.home> <1531167218.1159.15.camel@gentoo.org> <20180709211410.GA17986@linux1.home> <2f7c8b18-8c5d-2931-14a7-9d6d1e00526d@gentoo.org> <29b55e16-bb2e-5a98-13e2-e1482441b417@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <29b55e16-bb2e-5a98-13e2-e1482441b417@gentoo.org> --ePGS54luQFrtSGpsSFeADbq6hpqAY3S7Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-GB On 09/07/18 23:12, Zac Medico wrote: > On 07/09/2018 02:34 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> I'd mostly argue any such change should only affect new systems >> > Yes, changing defaults for existing systems would be annoying. > > My recommendation is to have catalyst set the new defaults in the stage= > tarballs. > > When sys-apps/portage changes its internal defaults, I'd like for the > upgrade process to call a tool that generates configuration files when > necessary to ensure that the existing paths remain constant. I think it should be possible for RelEng to make a start on catalyst updates - is there anything that would inhibit going ahead with this, potentially? 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