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From: Kumba <kumba@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-releng] Profile Reorganization
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 21:11:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <436C14E5.6010400@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1130942011.26789.225.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net>

Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> Alright, I've had this idea for ways to reorganize the profiles for some
> time now.  I figured now would be as good a time as any to introduce it
> here, since we probably do more profile work than anyone else.  Once
> we've got a decent idea hashed out, we can GLEP it and make the changes
> in the tree.
> 
> Basically, it is a reorganization of the profiles to make more sense.
> 
> Profiles would consist of:
> 
> $type/$kernel/$userland/$arch/($version)
> 
> Now, type would be the main type of profile.  To match with what we have
> now, we would have "default" which is the default release profile,
> "hardened" and "uclibc".  We would keep the "base" profile, where the
> globally-affecting things would remain.  The kernel would be the kernel
> in use.  I believe that currently, we would have "linux", "darwin", and
> "freebsd".  The userland would be "gnu" or "bsd".  Of course, arch is
> pretty obvious.  Everything below arch would be optional profiles.  For
> Release Engineering, this would be where we would put our versioned
> release profiles, along with any other sub-profiles.
> 
> All that this really accomplishes it a bit of cleanup of the profiles,
> but also allows for greater support of more interesting profiles, such
> as a hardened Linux profile with a BSD userland on Alpha.

I would be more inclined to pester the portage folk to see about getting a more 
modular profile design (which I originally suggested when stacking support was 
being discussed) that allows plugging n' playing.

i.e., Take the original idea I used for a variable in make.conf:

EPROFILE="default:linux:mips:uclibc:selinux:ip30"

Portage would then import the appropriate profile modules listed above and 
construct the profile that will be used on the system.

In /usr/portage/profiles, we'd have modules defined that'd specify the base 
properties of that given profile, and probably other things, like identifying 
what level a profile is at, with 'default', 'linux', and 'uclibc' being your 
higher-level profiles since they follow the $type, $kernel, $userland design. 
Under those comes the $arch level ('mips') and then any $feature profiles, like 
'hardened', 'selinux', or in mips' case, machines ('ip22', etc).  Also included 
would be variables indicating what modules cannot be mixed together (i.e., 
'linux' can't import a 'freebsd' or 'darwin' module).

Doing this I think would allow for a much cleaner design of profiles than 
currently exists.  As it stands, since we use both uclibc and glibc on mips, 
we'd have to re-replicate the entire mips profile subtrees under both 
default-linux/mips and uclibc/mips, and optionally under say, hardened/mips 
(once its features are tested).  Using a more pluggable system will reduce this 
complexity and maintaince hassle significantly, I think.

This pretty much entails a complete portage re-write I think...unsure on the 
specifics, but versus having to maintain a ton of profile trees, might be an 
idea worth discussing.


--Kumba

-- 
Gentoo/MIPS Team Lead
Gentoo Foundation Board of Trustees

"Such is oft the course of deeds that move the wheels of the world: small hands 
do them because they must, while the eyes of the great are elsewhere."  --Elrond
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-05  2:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-02 14:33 [gentoo-releng] Profile Reorganization Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-05  2:11 ` Kumba [this message]
2005-11-05  3:19   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-08 22:53     ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-11 23:37       ` Chris Gianelloni

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