From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E27QP-0001Bq-71 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 13:12:17 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j78DBje2028887; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 13:11:45 GMT Received: from outmx012.isp.belgacom.be (outmx012.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.3.70]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j78DBjwN021303 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 13:11:45 GMT Received: from outmx012.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outmx012.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id j78DC25r023000 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 15:12:03 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: from fuji.siphos.be (mail.daewoo.be [81.247.252.5] (may be forged)) by outmx012.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id j78DC0II022981 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 15:12:01 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: by fuji.siphos.be (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E6FDA23414A; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 15:12:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 15:12:36 +0200 From: Sven Vermeulen To: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-releng] alpha and x86 docs ready, rest still pending Message-ID: <20050808131236.GA21592@gentoo.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org References: <20050808084641.GC11581@gentoo.org> <20050808111003.GP3733@celeborn.wh-og.hs-niederrhein.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-releng@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050808111003.GP3733@celeborn.wh-og.hs-niederrhein.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-Archives-Salt: 237a0a6f-eed8-49bc-8de2-42ceb81854f8 X-Archives-Hash: d6b2a0e20eea08b6eed47a2a57be1dc2 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 01:10:03PM +0200, Lars Weiler wrote: > I didn't answered as I created the ppc-docs myself from our > current and updated handbook-draft. >=20 > Thanks for your help, but your first message was already too > late. I'm quite disappointed that the Release Engineering Guidelines [1] aren't followed. Quite a lot of developers apparently think that, once the installation media are created, the release is done. This isn't true and to make this more clear, the guidelines were created. As the documentation "liason" I am of course talking about documentation. There are a few steps mandatory in that process that seem to be forgotten this release: ** Is the installation documentation up-to-date? The Arch Release Coordinator should be in contact with the releng documentation liaison at all times to ensure that the documentation released is in sync with the release itself. ** Does the Gentoo Documentation Project (GDP) have all of the necessary ** information required for the release documentation? The GDP requires a listing of all bootable kernels on each bootable LiveCD, a listing of all supported boot options on each bootable LiveCD, the output of find on a mounted CD from each category (both bootable LiveCDs and a Packages CD), and the output of find on a booted universal/ minimal LiveCD. The information can be sent to the releng GDP liaison, who is listed on the releng Project Page. It is in my opinion also important that the Gentoo developers are aware that a release is pending, at least 24h in advance. The Gentoo Documentation team needs time to migrate the draft/2005.1 to the official location and prepare to update the current Handbook (for Internet-based installations). Where are we going at? This morning I woke up only to see massive confusion on #gentoo-dev. No-one knew that 2005.1 was released (if it is), infra said they weren't ready yet, the GDP wasn't informed, I found nothing on -core except beejay's e-mail telling he left (can't blame him). Not even a message to pr@gentoo.org or gentoo-pr@gentoo.org to discuss the Press Release. Look, I'm not the lead PR anymore, but if someone thinks he can just add documentation to the Gentoo Documentation Project without consulting the GDP, I would give him a nice slap with a big catfish. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/docs/release_guidelines.xml --=20 Documentation project leader - Gentoo Foundation Trustee The Gentoo Project <<< http://www.gentoo.org >>> --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFC91pEXfqz7M26L9sRAjUhAJ9ZUOOnatngk0enWhxE1Q56bbMg2wCfXweE oy8LloCNOCkniXYjYpXT0Ys= =oRdk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- -- gentoo-releng@gentoo.org mailing list