From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpwH2-0002Re-Or for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:52:17 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j65MpKFj009173; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:51:20 GMT Received: from chaosdorf.de (chaosdorf.de [217.69.77.174]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j65MpK4N006281 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:51:20 GMT Received: (qmail 10572 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 22:52:04 -0000 Received: from localhost.127.in-addr.arpa (HELO celeborn.wh-og.hs-niederrhein.de) (127.0.0.1) by chaosdorf.de with SMTP; 5 Jul 2005 22:52:04 -0000 Received: from lars by celeborn.wh-og.hs-niederrhein.de with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DpwAg-00044H-Ul; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:45:42 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:45:42 +0200 From: Lars Weiler To: ppc@gentoo.org, ppc64@gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-releng] ppc outlines for the release Message-ID: <20050705224542.GI31682@celeborn.wh-og.hs-niederrhein.de> Mail-Followup-To: ppc@gentoo.org, ppc64@gentoo.org, gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-releng@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: de,en,nl X-OS: Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r2-celeborn ppc X-PGP-KeyID: 475C474C X-PGP-CertKey: BEB4 C7C4 8160 BBF4 D0FB 373F 532A 82FB 475C 474C X-PGP-Request: http://www.chaosdorf.de/~pylon/pylon.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-Archives-Salt: ff5fbc80-9e15-451f-9201-d3d6be4485d0 X-Archives-Hash: 662f515e0fd003cb08c81035c9b0efd6 Hi all, I had a talk about the release with corsair last Friday and tried to point out some things for ppc32 and ppc64. Although ppc64 is able to use multilib, we would do separate releases. Well, we could include two squashfs on the LiveCD and boot separate kernels, but that will only stress our mirrors as every ppc-user has to download stuff he (mostly) does not need. ppc32 prerelease LiveCDs will be ready soon (I just need to run livecd-stage2 when I get genkernel to work properly ;)). If it's possible we would like to mirror them like x86 and let some users with brand-new Apple-hardware test them. Our kernel will be 2.6.12 (I use that snapshot), as this one gives much more support for new Apples. I will include two or three kernels on the LiveCD: common Apple, Pegasos and probably RS/6000. Still we need a confirmation if initramfs works on Pegasos (I guess not, or only with the patch plasmaroo had to create for the Itaniums). ppc32 is missing a 2005.1-profile! This is urgent and must be done soon, so that I can test it. Changes would be to create profiles for G3, G4, Pegasos, rs6k and OldWorld. Mostly some USE-Flags must be set or another default bootloader. ppc64 has a nice new profile, but it seems that there are some hickups ;-) We want to cut the support of too many stages and GRP-sets. My aim is: * ppc32-generic (ppc60x, G3/ppc75x) * ppc32-altivec (G4/ppc74xx) * ppc64 That means stripping G3 and G5 ppc32 stages and GRP. The difference between ppc-generic and G3 is too small that we need separate stages for it. The main-difference on ppc32 is altivec-enabled/-disabled what gives enormous performance boosts. G5-ppc32-stages will also vanish, as ppc64 is able to provide multilib-support, running 32/64-bit-userland with a 64-bit-kernel, like on amd64. And so a 32-bit-only system makes no sense. My personal problem is that I had to switch from the Pegasos to a PowerMac 533 as my release-build-machine. But somehow that machine is not much slower than the Pegasos, so that I think I can create the stages and LiveCD on my own (needs about 14 hours for stage1-3). But I really need help in the GRP-bulding. If we want to provide kde-meta, the machine will need more than three days for a complete GRP build... But I already talked to corsair that I may get an account on his Dual-G5 and can build the stages in a chroot. Or I'll come over to him for a cup of coffee (hey, he lives in my 10km-bicycle-radius! :-) ), while the GRP-set builds. So far the status of ppc-release-building. If you have any comments (I hope, I told everything correct about ppc64), just reply to this message or reach me on IRC (when I'm online ;) ). Regards, Lars -- Lars Weiler +49-171-1963258 Gentoo Linux PowerPC : Developer and Release Engineer Gentoo Infrastructure : CVS Administrator Gentoo Foundation : Trustee -- gentoo-releng@gentoo.org mailing list