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* [gentoo-releng] Release coordinators meeting
@ 2004-03-07 16:11 John Davis
  2004-03-07 18:02 ` Sven Vermeulen
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From: John Davis @ 2004-03-07 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-releng

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Hi all -
The release coordinators meeting will be Monday, March 8 at 1800 UTC. I
would like to have klieber and drobbins there as well if possible. So
what everyone is on the same page, please look over the 2004.1
information page at:
<http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.1/releng/2004.1.xml>.
There are parts of it that are subject to change as the release is more
defined.

Cheers,
//zhen
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* Re: [gentoo-releng] Release coordinators meeting
  2004-03-07 16:11 [gentoo-releng] Release coordinators meeting John Davis
@ 2004-03-07 18:02 ` Sven Vermeulen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Sven Vermeulen @ 2004-03-07 18:02 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-releng

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On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:11:29AM -0500, John Davis wrote:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.1/releng/2004.1.xml>
> There are parts of it that are subject to change as the release is more
> defined.

I'd like to put some documentation-related points in the public. 

In a perfect world a draft release (with the final portage snapshot and GRP
packages and such) would be made, documentation could be tested and then
committed so that the final LiveCDs contain the correct documentation.

Sadly enough, the world most of us are in isn't completely perfect (dunno
about seemant's world though :). 

First of all, resource-wise it's a bit difficult for me or many other GDP
members to download and test (network connection, time, boxes, ...). 

Second, testing requires some time and ideally the time between a draft
release and the final one should be as short as possible. In order to be able
to have better documentation released on release (note that this didn't
happen on 1.4 and not on 2004.0 either :( ) the GDP needs a bit more
information about the LiveCDs that will be released:

- Listing of available boot kernels (on LiveCD); per architecture
- Listing of available boot options (on LiveCD); per architecture
- Output of "find" on
  +- The LiveCD (mounted)
  +- The LiveCD (booted - after being inside the gcloop or whatever)
  `- The other LiveCD(s)

Sadly enough, this isn't sufficient. Such information should be available
*really* soon _if_ the layout of the CDs will differ from the current layout.
Which is going to happen with 2004.1 as GRP will be different. Again. Know
that GRP is what has always been broken documentation-wise on releases.

Third, the LiveCDs should be as "identical" as possible. I hope this will
be the case in 2004.1 (as catalyst creates almost identical LiveCDs, right?)
but in 2004.0 the second LiveCD (the one with GRP packages on it) differed a
bit architecture-wise (some have a subdir "packages/" in it, others don't). 

Finally, is it possible to make all architectures release at the same time
_if_ the LiveCD structure (and therefor the installation instructions)
differ? 

This is about it. Now to grab some food :)

Wkr,
	Sven Vermeulen

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