From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JMmv1-00063Y-R3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:14:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3039E0374; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inertia.localdomain (dsl211-165-131.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [74.211.165.131]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797F2E0374 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by inertia.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4B9B4890491; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:44:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-releng] Re: Free-standing Portage / Recent stage3 tarballs / Beta From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1202196949.27192.1235119087@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1202013069.18679.1234757825@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1202196949.27192.1235119087@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-izg1FtAkvucS/hwj16NR" Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:44:24 -0800 Message-Id: <1202229864.6496.1.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 X-Archives-Salt: ba1357e4-9b42-498e-ba20-c6fc8a7f25af X-Archives-Hash: 55e231b37ce90cf83474ac73be9f72e8 --=-izg1FtAkvucS/hwj16NR Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 23:35 -0800, davecode@nospammail.net wrote: > I'm not saying "change your ways" but rather "tarball ~stuff" to help > sysadmins make their own design choices. Any choice is a balancing > act of competing requirements. >=20 > > They've got no clue what it means, then they bitch/whine > > when they hit ABI issues or other problems and blame Gentoo. >=20 > Not in this discussion? All I want is a cleaner way to install > ~arch.=20 > Put all the warning stickers you want. I agree it is *not* for > average users. You must be new here. If we allow it, it'll be used. Not only will it be used, but the users will expect us to support it. We are already understaffed to support simple things like the stages and the minimal images. Adding yet another set of stages that could much more easily be broken due to lower QA just isn't something we have the ability to do, even if we wanted to do it. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Games Developer --=-izg1FtAkvucS/hwj16NR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkeokmgACgkQkT4lNIS36YHm/ACfR2nX3YcC8BkG6KyGE+1CBK3p HeEAn1KUBZmqZLU9aweHmGgr6AZVBiB4 =lmuO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-izg1FtAkvucS/hwj16NR-- -- gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org mailing list