From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JM9ud-0000cw-Ow for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:35:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B7A5E06A1; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inertia.localdomain (dsl211-165-132.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [74.211.165.132]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32631E06A1 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by inertia.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AFE78890456; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:35:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-releng] Call for feature requests for 2008.0 - Universal-CD From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1202161635.18288.14.camel@thinkpad.homenetwork> References: <1201199006.16962.1.camel@workbox.quova.com> <1202160035.2061.25.camel@thinkpad.homenetwork> <47A782D4.4020400@gmail.com> <47A78375.2090902@gentoo.org> <1202161635.18288.14.camel@thinkpad.homenetwork> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-6W+s3dTcX4giMRtS3ayp" Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:35:33 -0800 Message-Id: <1202164533.8004.8.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 X-Archives-Salt: 993e5ea5-bb56-472f-874b-0ed6ab7f47c8 X-Archives-Hash: bafe718eb46d2aa385b8e3bad8794e6c --=-6W+s3dTcX4giMRtS3ayp Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:47 +0100, Peter Weber wrote: > A other good solution would be merging Universal and Minimal-CD > togehter, so we offer only a smaller Universal-CD (about 200-400 MB) and > a complete LiveCD (about 700 MB). Wow. I'm just not even going to respond to this one and just let everybody who knows what the difference between a Minimal CD and an Universal CD snicker to themselves. ;] > > * Support for network/networkless-installation on one release-media >=20 > > The LiveCD does this. >=20 > No. Only the Installer does this! This is not possible via shell, > because the users have no access to the voodoo-scripts. No, the LiveCD does this. The Installer is a feature of the LiveCD. Also, the Installer doesn't do networked installs, anymore. > Why nobody removes Gnome, Open-Office from the LiveCD and replace it by > a true Stage3? It would be also nice, not be forced always switch of the > automatic start of the howl X11-Crap. > Default could be the plain shell, as ever, and a message who says the > user he could type "installer" (for ncurses-installer) and > "gui-installer" (for X11 with Installer). Gentoo is about choices ;-) No, Gentoo is about empowering the user to make choices for themselves and providing the tools to facilitate those choices. It doesn't mean that we have to spend countless hours building, testing, and supporting media that we find to be rather useless due to its *very* limited feature set versus the LiveCD. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Games Developer --=-6W+s3dTcX4giMRtS3ayp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkenkzUACgkQkT4lNIS36YEk4QCfTJhU4ynASv5a0tns+XLRGdSr uzEAnizU+s/cDh+guKbOrnY38Uo02TKY =AytB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-6W+s3dTcX4giMRtS3ayp-- -- gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org mailing list