From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EfeCz-0000vb-MP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:05:50 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAPE5b0t031709; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:05:37 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAPE5bwe004706 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:05:37 GMT Received: from c83-251-211-193.bredband.comhem.se ([83.251.211.193]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EfeCm-0006TS-GQ for gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:05:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-releng] oss in make.defaults for 2006.0? From: "Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)" To: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200511251100.20213.m.debruijne@hccnet.nl> References: <200511251014.11425.m.debruijne@hccnet.nl> <4386D860.1070801@gentoo.org> <200511251100.20213.m.debruijne@hccnet.nl> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ySqrn2C7D+HlRtINN3H7" Organization: Gentoo Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:05:34 +0100 Message-Id: <1132927534.8482.2.camel@Darkmere.darkmere> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-releng@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-releng@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 X-Archives-Salt: 2f2205eb-1c76-4515-b3fe-7f525e7c76a7 X-Archives-Hash: 8ba89779ba8d77c3a09fbea23bcf3c18 --=-ySqrn2C7D+HlRtINN3H7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 11:00 +0100, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > On Friday 25 November 2005 10:24, Luca Barbato wrote: > > Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > > > Now that useflags are evaluated for the 2006.0 profile (e.g. nptl and > > > apache2) I wonder if it's still necessary to have oss in make.default= s? > > > The replacement (alsa) is preferred by kernel developers for almost 2 > > > years. Time to remove it from the 2006.0 profile? > > > > I'd have a look at how many software are using oss only and how many > > have good alsa support, not to mention which drivers are oss only or > > work better as oss. Theres a few issues here, at least Trident and via chipsets work good in alsa. however, due to the difficulty for programmers to use the alsa-api, you actually get -better- sound (less glitches and buffer underruns) if you use alsa-drivers + alsa-oss emulation. This is clearly visible in Fex. amarok (gstreamer backend) and other players, especially under higher system loads. (yes, even with a preemptive kernel) > For the programs that are oss-only a useflag shouldn't even exists, becau= se=20 > it's not optional. > All systems I maintain (about 15 different hardware/software specs) have = -oss=20 > and work as expected. I'm interested if someone on this list has=20 > hardware/software where oss is preferred over alsa? > Does anybody knows if the default setup of other distros include=20 > "oss-compiled" packages? Yeah, they do. At least last I checked both ubuntu and Fedora Core had oss as their default sound-sinks for many things. The transition period will take ages I'm afraid :/ //Spider --=20 begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end --=-ySqrn2C7D+HlRtINN3H7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDhxouZS9CZTi033kRAmFQAKCBI0QFwHmntiowzCaq0s4JArs24ACdGWQ4 LqUWgdWQteILtk9ETeV5brw= =vy4r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ySqrn2C7D+HlRtINN3H7-- -- gentoo-releng@gentoo.org mailing list