On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 11:00 +0100, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > On Friday 25 November 2005 10:24, Luca Barbato wrote: > > Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > > > Now that useflags are evaluated for the 2006.0 profile (e.g. nptl and > > > apache2) I wonder if it's still necessary to have oss in make.defaults? > > > The replacement (alsa) is preferred by kernel developers for almost 2 > > > years. Time to remove it from the 2006.0 profile? > > > > I'd have a look at how many software are using oss only and how many > > have good alsa support, not to mention which drivers are oss only or > > work better as oss. Theres a few issues here, at least Trident and via chipsets work good in alsa. however, due to the difficulty for programmers to use the alsa-api, you actually get -better- sound (less glitches and buffer underruns) if you use alsa-drivers + alsa-oss emulation. This is clearly visible in Fex. amarok (gstreamer backend) and other players, especially under higher system loads. (yes, even with a preemptive kernel) > For the programs that are oss-only a useflag shouldn't even exists, because > it's not optional. > All systems I maintain (about 15 different hardware/software specs) have -oss > and work as expected. I'm interested if someone on this list has > hardware/software where oss is preferred over alsa? > Does anybody knows if the default setup of other distros include > "oss-compiled" packages? Yeah, they do. At least last I checked both ubuntu and Fedora Core had oss as their default sound-sinks for many things. The transition period will take ages I'm afraid :/ //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end