[gentoo-releng] x86 2004.2 Profile

[gentoo-releng] x86 2004.2 Profile

[Benjamin Judas]

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Hello folks,

Chris was talking to me today about the creation of default-x86-2004.2,
finally a new profile for the upcoming release. It would only include
minor changes but also the - now 80% settled - change from xfree to
xorg.

If you have any ideas/concerns then please voice them now.

Regards
-- 
Benjamin Judas

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[gentoo-releng] Re: [gentoo-core] x86 2004.2 Profile

[John Davis]

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On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 08:21, Benjamin Judas wrote:
> Hello folks,
> 
> Chris was talking to me today about the creation of default-x86-2004.2,
> finally a new profile for the upcoming release. It would only include
> minor changes but also the - now 80% settled - change from xfree to
> xorg.
> 
> If you have any ideas/concerns then please voice them now.
> 
> Regards

Is this that necessary? Why couldn't we merge this stuff into the
default 2004.0 profile? It would impact more users that way (and even
more if it was integrated into the 1.4 profile). With stackable profiles
on their way (the only blocker now is the bootstrap script which is
being worked on), does it make sense to create yet another profile?

I would just merge the changes globally into all of our profiles (where
applicable). I see no reason to add more bloat.

Cheers,
-- 
John Davis
Gentoo Linux Developer
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~zhen>

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[gentoo-releng] Re: [gentoo-core] x86 2004.2 Profile

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 09:34, John Davis wrote:
> Is this that necessary? Why couldn't we merge this stuff into the
> default 2004.0 profile? It would impact more users that way (and even
> more if it was integrated into the 1.4 profile). With stackable profiles
> on their way (the only blocker now is the bootstrap script which is
> being worked on), does it make sense to create yet another profile?

For consitency's sake, yes, it is necessary.  I don't want to build a
machine today using the 2004.0 profile and build a machine tomorrow
using *the same profile* and have one using xfree and one using
xorg-x11.

It also diminishes the number of bugs that will crop up from confused
users.  Personally, I believe that a profile should never be changed
once it is created, as it introduces many of those "undocumented
changes" that our users are starting to get tired of seeing.  We have an
obligation to our users.  A 24K profile being added to the portage tree
will not kill us.  Hopefully, we'll be getting rid of all of the
"legacy" profiles in the future, and this profile will be deleted, but
for now, I think it is absolutely necessary.

I also think that this needs to be discussed on -dev and not -core,
which is why I sent my emails there, as this directly impacts our users
and is something I am sure they're interested in.

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Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering QA Manager/Games Developer
Gentoo Linux

Is your power animal a penguin?

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