[gentoo-releng] genkernel status

[gentoo-releng] genkernel status

[Pieter Van den Abeele]

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Hi,

Are we still going to be "dropping people to a shell so they can fix 
their shit" for 2004.1? Has anybody taken a look at the ppc initrd, 
which is simpler, commented and "shit"- & "idiot"- less?

Best regards,

Pieter Van den Abeele

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Corey Shields <cshields@gentoo.org>
> Date: Wed 14 Apr 2004 15:55:43 CEST
> To: gentoo-core@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-core] IMPORTANT: devrel procedure (long)
>
> Stewart Honsberger wrote:
>> I'm of the opinion we should forget positions, offices et al. and 
>> remain an open, cooperative community. Allow people's strengths to 
>> naturally take over to get problems solved.
>
> There needs to be some sort of structure in place or we will never be 
> seen seriously in the eyes of people who need to use it seriously.  It 
> is bad enough that things like "dropping you to a shell so you can fix 
> your shit" made it into the 2004.0 release, if everyone does whatever 
> they want[1], then we are setting ourselves up for a very hobbiest 
> distribution.  Yeah, it may already be a hobbiest distribution for 
> some of you, but for my employer it is a platform for our production 
> environment.
>
> [1] - you're really free to do whatever you want anyway if you're 
> willing to put the time and effort into it, but for the core Gentoo 
> distribution, lines need to be drawn and enforced.
>
> Cheers!
>
> -Corey
>
> -- 
> Corey Shields - Gentoo Linux Infrastructure Team
> http://www.gentoo.org/~cshields
>
> --
> gentoo-core@gentoo.org mailing list
>

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Hi,


Are we still going to be "dropping people to a shell so they can fix
their shit" for 2004.1? Has anybody taken a look at the ppc initrd,
which is simpler, commented and "shit"- & "idiot"- less?


Best regards,


Pieter Van den Abeele


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devrel procedure (long)

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Stewart Honsberger wrote:

<excerpt>I'm of the opinion we should forget positions, offices et al.
and remain an open, cooperative community. Allow people's strengths to
naturally take over to get problems solved.

</excerpt>

There needs to be some sort of structure in place or we will never be
seen seriously in the eyes of people who need to use it seriously.  It
is bad enough that things like "dropping you to a shell so you can fix
your shit" made it into the 2004.0 release, if everyone does whatever
they want[1], then we are setting ourselves up for a very hobbiest
distribution.  Yeah, it may already be a hobbiest distribution for
some of you, but for my employer it is a platform for our production
environment.


[1] - you're really free to do whatever you want anyway if you're
willing to put the time and effort into it, but for the core Gentoo
distribution, lines need to be drawn and enforced.


Cheers!


-Corey


-- 

Corey Shields - Gentoo Linux Infrastructure Team

http://www.gentoo.org/~cshields


--

gentoo-core@gentoo.org mailing list


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Re: [gentoo-releng] genkernel status

[John Davis]

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On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 10:13, Pieter Van den Abeele wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Are we still going to be "dropping people to a shell so they can
> fixtheir shit" for 2004.1? Has anybody taken a look at the ppc
> initrd,which is simpler, commented and "shit"- & "idiot"- less?
> 

I am 99% sure that plasmaroo took care of it.

Talk to plasmaroo about the PPC initrd.

Cheers,
//zhen

-- 
John Davis
Gentoo Linux Developer
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~zhen>

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