From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OmtNK-0005M8-9a for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:05:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFAA3E0850 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FD4E0822 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 18:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb39 with SMTP id 39so3172135wwb.10 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:05:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=zZCKY8kcfNjnBGtOuqOYBVi7E7GodRBBVxjMnzhfDyE=; b=XUeCdSnDeJcDVrhXaGdaiXqcTEWbiEw1morirpIiMBhWmJ5ko/9yHWnPyh3DUYbcRY ELQLPLHLD5DN1SXqLnxpjPoAF9Yiej764/mah9PxgQOrP5i3S3ASlZZa+ZWB5qbu7N5N a50WwjJ8yxyld70BJn1ONr+eBu3ocCbXNJobM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=VrZX0By/Buyfoxn7sGmss09WNwKuphbopUzzINNfwFgp1HuY5YUSchd4brTJuiSDtq VybBWCXIsEpD5shS3i0HCFPItIOHZO8tiDNT5SgR6S27fJgoEElrW2pxKxNhDY7TOlQt VEE7BP9/DUQG6OBfOkX3EYTvar8Bc4Jo/0kn4= Received: by 10.216.93.16 with SMTP id k16mr2650888wef.78.1282413921546; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Mystical (188.4.102.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [188.4.102.108]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w29sm2582461weq.18.2010.08.21.11.05.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Markos Chandras Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:08:32 +0300 From: Markos Chandras To: gentoo-qa@lists.gentoo.org Cc: qa@gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-qa] Re: Roll-call for the team members and requesting a new election Message-ID: <20100821180832.GA15572@Mystical> References: <1282412805.445.47.camel@yamato.local> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-qa@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-qa@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1282412805.445.47.camel@yamato.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 0c4ad670-80f5-4576-b1dd-115b77440c29 X-Archives-Hash: 4e28058a36ce6b00b3cb2467c26421a5 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 07:46:45PM +0200, Diego Elio =E2=80=9CFlameeyes=E2= =80=9D Petten=C3=B2 wrote: > First off, checking the current list of QA members, please answer just > to make sure you are active and still interested of being part of the > team: > [...] > - Markos Chandras > [...] Apparently I am here and as active as I can be >=20 > After this I'd like to call for an election of a new lead; I have asked > privately for Mark to resign, or call up new elections himself, so that > I could avoid to state it this way but I see no other choice. >=20 > Given the current (sorry) state of QA, working mostly leadless (Mark > seems to be around when you're complaining he's not around), and with > most members apathetic about all kind of issues, I'm proposing myself as > new lead. Elections might be a solution to that but even a meeting could help the situation. It seems to me that QA is more like one,two,three individual peo= ple doing all the work. It should be more like a team work, act as a team, back= ing up a member when he is being "attacked" by other devs because he "had to" s= tep up and mess with their packages just to preserve future portage breakage.= =20 >=20 > The role of the lead in this project cannot be simply a "supervising" > [...] > elections right away. Diego pretty much said what I am thinking atm --=20 Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org Key ID: 441AC410 Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkxwFiAACgkQ9/cejkQaxBD2+QCfRpw14KigRYPfbKJ4mvJrRhL1 Pm8AmwTb6kCctTxZwEkYqXNXRPiGPmyK =LUC5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi--