From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C9D13800E for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11B14E0478; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD87FE0478 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDF01B401F for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:40:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.514 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.514 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.087, BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o4l6DA8kNwmH for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E5451B4020 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3178920A20 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:40:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:40:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:to:date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from :message-id; s=smtpout; bh=BFQ3z2tfWNKgUzxt1cf/omBeSsk=; b=DpTbe LDXF9K7bOOKVbKI/N2ZDS6qZPH2YDILKxVRbGo+nNUBftkE3vLDIpejDTqnTjl5s Cd+Dp2SdRGFIsAbpkBiUnrx3Mvj2DvTCsLxuF1u6g6cRqKaCd/CsYJdQ5ujuV6BP XdQOt2Pr004wHQTLlSj6OD445g1nZTqMQ0n5Os= X-Sasl-enc: y2HpFrdjf5Uh4gkS4EJMOdU7KKyiWAXL57J6uma6W2QV 1343655604 Received: from verkdatorn.npdb (unknown [109.188.189.213]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6BFF248249F for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:40:04 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes In-Reply-To: References: <5015EDC2.202@gentoo.org> <50164471.9080108@gentoo.org> <20120730110654.1567cf84@pomiocik.lan> <20120730111657.723dd344@pomiocik.lan> <20120730115032.105ccb91@pomiocik.lan> Subject: Re: [gentoo-python] Python 3 in Gentoo To: gentoo-python Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:39:43 +0400 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Discussions centering around the Python ecosystem in Gentoo Linux X-BeenThere: gentoo-python@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-python@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Nikolaj Sjujskij" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (Linux) X-Archives-Salt: 210cb606-d42c-4cff-bf8b-709c59d1b7e5 X-Archives-Hash: 816fea2fa4c92b307a056dbb7b47f076 > Seems to me that the easiest way to manage this would be to set > USE="python2" for portage in the profile, IFF you want to prevent > python:3 in the stages. > > That said, I don't see what the real issue is here. Those that want > python:2 and/or python:3 will set USE_PYTHON correctly. I am concerned > here that a vocal minority will cause some invasive change that the > silent majority cares little about. Some may find the current status > annoying, others will find the change annoying (me being one of the > latter). > > Unless someone can provide empirical data to backup any claim, one way > or the other, I would strongly suggest that no change be made, > especially without further consultation regarding the _proposed_ > change with the developer and user communities. > > Thank you for your consideration. I as a user could only +1. I can't see the issue, honestly. Those who don't like Python 3, could jolly well mask it and tweak USE_PYTHON / PYTHON_TARGETS vars. Using this ugly debianish `python3-3.2` or whatever is a step back in my opinion. Quite a lot of users could kepp their systems Python2-less. About half of Python modules (at least) work with both Python 2 and 3. Heck, even Qt3 and Qt4 were one slotted package!