From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SYGlQ-0000kw-Ha for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 26 May 2012 13:10:36 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56F59E064F; Sat, 26 May 2012 13:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D632E064F for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 13:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECAC206E5; Sat, 26 May 2012 09:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 26 May 2012 09:10:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:to:cc:subject:references :date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id :in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=CeZbmkHjPJUW0RmS9dPZNwUynbI=; b=u2Ec 7dQpARqfH/M6Fq8Q0fZwceQDen3IqMa1G7N0xbcQ4ohYvU/eAh8INnwWXTnuIu/g LDv8oVk/V2LEqCZxvnQOeGY4P7ndxYVCmGfOyeYWpO4xTtZwZtf670XKl9m99xkw gVd/dOwdCiTHwhyQkP1UBlTOVkuNa/G+Z+CzKtU= X-Sasl-enc: BrV+R3wQRHlSVRlejWp+5z2Y6k8wkFcUD8hProsoPeia 1338037832 Received: from gentoobook.trollsnaetverk (unknown [46.32.64.68]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4A6EF4836DA; Sat, 26 May 2012 09:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: =?utf-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= Cc: gentoo-python Subject: Re: [gentoo-python] python-distutils.eclass vs. python.eclass + distutils.eclass References: <20120526150729.033dcd82@pomiocik.lan> Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 17:09:59 +0400 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Discussions centering around the Python ecosystem in Gentoo Linux X-BeenThere: gentoo-python@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-python@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable From: "Nikolaj Sjujskij" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20120526150729.033dcd82@pomiocik.lan> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.64 (Linux) X-Archives-Salt: 3136b013-1c65-4c1f-a292-def5a303c2bd X-Archives-Hash: e5767186e043b713bfeb8c80fb60a30f Den 2012-05-26 17:07:29 skrev Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny = : > On Sat, 26 May 2012 17:01:26 +0400 > "Nikolaj Sjujskij" wrote: > >> > So I think the second part of this (x.y to x.y+1 transitions, in th= e >> > Python world, are generally relatively smooth) invalidates your >> > point in the first part: if the transitions are generally smooth, >> > then yes, when Python 3.3 gets stabilized, I want all of my Python >> > packages to be available from the 3.3 interpreter. >> Let's take a "stable" user who updates (`emerge --update --deep >> --newuse @world`) his/her system regularly. >> Python 3.3 is released, added to Portage tree and eventually unmasked= . >> PYTHON_TARGETS variable is changed to include 3.3. And suddenly >> `emerge --newuse @world` on stable system suggests rebuilding of >> every package using new eclass, because new (though disabled) >> USE-flags was added. And when Python 3.3 is keyworded stable, hence >> bringing new default PYTHON_TARGETS, user should now rebuild those >> packages once more, but now, at least, not uselessly. >> >> Just yesterday I had www-servers/uwsgi recompiled because of changed >> RUBY_TARGETS. And I even have no Ruby installed. > > I suggest you report a bug against portage and/or PMS. Excuse me, but I really fail to see how this could be their fault.