* [gentoo-python] Leaving 2.4 behind
@ 2011-12-02 14:05 Dirkjan Ochtman
2011-12-03 2:42 ` Mike Gilbert
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From: Dirkjan Ochtman @ 2011-12-02 14:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-python
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Hi there,
I feel it's about time to leave 2.4 behind. We've seen an uptick in
packages that don't support it anymore (making life harder for us if we're
trying to test for it), and at least some of our devs don't have it
installed anymore. In the wider ecosystem, as well, it seems like other
parties are also ending support for 2.4.
Anyone opposed?
Cheers,
Dirkjan
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* Re: [gentoo-python] Leaving 2.4 behind
2011-12-02 14:05 [gentoo-python] Leaving 2.4 behind Dirkjan Ochtman
@ 2011-12-03 2:42 ` Mike Gilbert
2011-12-03 17:37 ` Johan Bergström
2011-12-03 19:11 ` Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek)
2011-12-09 5:50 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
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From: Mike Gilbert @ 2011-12-03 2:42 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-python
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On 12/02/2011 09:05 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I feel it's about time to leave 2.4 behind. We've seen an uptick in
> packages that don't support it anymore (making life harder for us if
> we're trying to test for it), and at least some of our devs don't have
> it installed anymore. In the wider ecosystem, as well, it seems like
> other parties are also ending support for 2.4.
>
> Anyone opposed?
No disagreement here.
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* Re: [gentoo-python] Leaving 2.4 behind
2011-12-03 2:42 ` Mike Gilbert
@ 2011-12-03 17:37 ` Johan Bergström
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From: Johan Bergström @ 2011-12-03 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-python
On 12/02/2011 09:05 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I feel it's about time to leave 2.4 behind. We've seen an uptick in
> packages that don't support it anymore (making life harder for us if
> we're trying to test for it), and at least some of our devs don't have
> it installed anymore. In the wider ecosystem, as well, it seems like
> other parties are also ending support for 2.4.
I've seen this trend too. Stuff like with statements and conditional expressions is making 2.5 take 2.4's place as lowest req.
>
> Anyone opposed?
Unless there are packages that explicitly need 2.4 I'm all for removing it. There's no point in having an older version around since it only adds maintenance when bumping packages.
(Additionally, should there be a list of packages depending on 2.4 and nothing else - we should evaluate and act upon these).
Thanks,
Johan
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* Re: [gentoo-python] Leaving 2.4 behind
2011-12-02 14:05 [gentoo-python] Leaving 2.4 behind Dirkjan Ochtman
2011-12-03 2:42 ` Mike Gilbert
@ 2011-12-03 19:11 ` Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek)
2011-12-09 5:50 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
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From: Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) @ 2011-12-03 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Dirkjan Ochtman; +Cc: gentoo-python
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On Dec 2, 2011 9:06 AM, "Dirkjan Ochtman" <djc@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I feel it's about time to leave 2.4 behind. We've seen an uptick in
packages that don't support it anymore (making life harder for us if we're
trying to test for it), and at least some of our devs don't have it
installed anymore. In the wider ecosystem, as well, it seems like other
parties are also ending support for 2.4.
>
> Anyone opposed?
Not me. I'd be glad to remove it!
Thanks,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dirkjan
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* Re: [gentoo-python] Leaving 2.4 behind
2011-12-02 14:05 [gentoo-python] Leaving 2.4 behind Dirkjan Ochtman
2011-12-03 2:42 ` Mike Gilbert
2011-12-03 19:11 ` Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek)
@ 2011-12-09 5:50 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2011-12-09 18:05 ` Nikolaj Sjujskij
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From: Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis @ 2011-12-09 5:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Gentoo Python
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2011-12-02 15:05:43 Dirkjan Ochtman napisał(a):
> Hi there,
>
> I feel it's about time to leave 2.4 behind. We've seen an uptick in
> packages that don't support it anymore (making life harder for us if we're
> trying to test for it), and at least some of our devs don't have it
> installed anymore. In the wider ecosystem, as well, it seems like other
> parties are also ending support for 2.4.
>
> Anyone opposed?
I have neutral opinion about removing support for Python 2.4, but I think that you should
perform the survey amongst larger number of users (e.g. on Gentoo Forums). According to
Gentoo Infra, only 18 people are subscribed to this mailing list.
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* Re: [gentoo-python] Leaving 2.4 behind
2011-12-09 5:50 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
@ 2011-12-09 18:05 ` Nikolaj Sjujskij
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From: Nikolaj Sjujskij @ 2011-12-09 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-python
> I feel it's about time to leave 2.4 behind
I'd say that *support* for Python 2.4 may be dropped, not
`dev-lang/python:2.4` itself. Mask it and declare "unsupported". When it
breaks itself (couldn't be compiled and no-one cares to write a patch),
drop it. There're Gentoo users writing in Python for old RedHat, which
would be supported till Py4k is out, so why drop what hasn't been broken
(yet)?
> I have neutral opinion about removing support for Python 2.4, but I
> think that you should
> perform the survey amongst larger number of users (e.g. on Gentoo Forums)
Good idea.
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