From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439A213800E for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3463BE03E4; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00666E03E4 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: djc) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38A591B4005 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by weyt57 with SMTP id t57so3776423wey.40 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 02:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.20.99 with SMTP id m3mr25013928wie.16.1343640231684; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 02:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Discussions centering around the Python ecosystem in Gentoo Linux X-BeenThere: gentoo-python@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-python@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.162.209 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 02:23:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120730111657.723dd344@pomiocik.lan> References: <5015EDC2.202@gentoo.org> <50164471.9080108@gentoo.org> <20120730110654.1567cf84@pomiocik.lan> <20120730111657.723dd344@pomiocik.lan> From: Dirkjan Ochtman Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:23:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-python] Python 3 in Gentoo To: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= Cc: Richard Yao , gentoo-python@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 8fc81e88-7e22-45cf-9a49-1cf3c5dbec8d X-Archives-Hash: bbd6cb0c59679e14b2adb987bf761daa On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > You're saying 'we should explore the option not to upgrade packages > without user explicitly saying "please upgrade this package"'. Yes, or until the package maintainer removes the annotation again. >> > Or maybe we should explore the option of fixing python.eclass to not >> > depend on random python versions implicitly? >> >> I don't know that it does, but I hope you can enlighten me! > > It does depend on python versions based on $USE_PYTHON. And USE_PYTHON > defaults to 2+3 if installed. If it pulls in Python 3, it will pull in > all the time unless you set USE_PYTHON manually and remerge all > the packages manually. It seems to me that we could fix USE_PYTHON to always depend only on 2 unless it's explicitly set by the user, but it seems to me that Portage would, in that case, still pull python3 into the stages. Cheers, Dirkjan