From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A00138ABE for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7FF6E0509; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E867E0509 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f174.google.com (mail-ie0-f174.google.com [209.85.223.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: floppym) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 756EC33DB44 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id k10so6526020iea.33 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 10:48:28 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Discussions centering around the Python ecosystem in Gentoo Linux X-BeenThere: gentoo-python@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-python@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.6.202 with SMTP id d10mr3405118iga.28.1361126908699; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 10:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.102.66 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 10:48:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:48:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [gentoo-python] Supporting non-UTF-8 locales From: Mike Gilbert To: gentoo-python Cc: python@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 1fdcf8a2-4682-4f15-ba29-6ed1eb642b01 X-Archives-Hash: fa7d3f20a7f10a932436cdbfd14ecc92 This issue seems to keep coming up in bug reports, especially those filed by Diego from his tinderbox. Basically, the way I/O is handled in python3 often causes build failures or test failures if you do not have a UTF-8 locale set. Ideally, upstream developers would write their code to deal with this, but that's a bit of a pipe dream. Gentoo as a whole can't seem to make its mind up, but can the python team come to a rough consensus as to whether we want to support non-UTF-8 locales for python packages? I'm sitting on the fence at the moment: I tend to fix issues if they cause build failures, but I ignore any test failures. If we decide to support non-UTF-8 locales, we need to stop leaving bugzilla comments like "please use a sane locale". If we decide against supporting non-UTF-8 locales, I think we should begin to close such bugs as WONTFIX on a consistent basis. My vote would be to not support non-UTF-8 locales -- it just isn't worth the effort. Thoughts?