From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE67813800E for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B4E8E01C9; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED511E01C9 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (pool-72-89-250-138.nycmny.fios.verizon.net [72.89.250.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ryao) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58E191B4005 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50164471.9080108@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:23:13 -0400 From: Richard Yao User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120628 Thunderbird/10.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Discussions centering around the Python ecosystem in Gentoo Linux X-BeenThere: gentoo-python@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-python@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-python@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-python] Python 3 in Gentoo References: <5015EDC2.202@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF95D4442A2A793AD03EB6CAD" X-Archives-Salt: 7631197d-6ae2-4e93-8980-411fe0ced82d X-Archives-Hash: 9f631bb67d09c993015f478cda58eafb This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF95D4442A2A793AD03EB6CAD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/30/2012 03:36 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Mike Gilbert wrot= e: >> Is anyone in favor or opposed to this package rename idea? Are there a= ny >> better ideas? > I've always thought renaming python-3 to python3 is faux-namespacing, > and the thing SLOTs are supposed to help out with. Why aren't SLOTs > helping us with this? Portage will attempt to upgrade software to a newer SLOT if it will satisfy a dependency. This works when you cannot select versions via eselect, but it causes problems when you can. There is no way to tell it to prefer the selected version upgrades in other slots unless the selected version cannot satisfy it. > The problem I have with it is that inevitably there's going to be a > time we don't care about python-2 anymore, and we'll be stuck with the > python3 package name (or have to go through annoying mechanics to > rename it back). I think that having to switch back would cause far less pain than the current situation would, assuming that we ever do. If the python developers refuse to make python 2.8, it is likely that someone else will= =2E > I agree that installing both is probably overkill for most users. I > think the solution is somewhere outside the dev-lang/python package, > though, in having the system set or portage or whatever the hell it is > that first pulls in python prefer python-2. This would require amending the package manager specification. --------------enigF95D4442A2A793AD03EB6CAD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQFkRzAAoJECDuEZm+6ExkLboP/isFgFIkvEoL5YGahqiKrDs/ ul1RfRCjXafpCtOuKh34X6/qY5o0GxULGxga+vwEHz7/8AM5tKve1YuEdU39oAGQ f9f21+HCBSv2FV1cFWDCdloacIEPEksdPbTk1nw9U9kYOR8iy9Nc6siI1UoBaefi ydbGn5Ao1epgMJbby8QOgBLQ6FYY6U1K1lxKgaHPOq4Uq8okaSAWWcZ/4iVOW3F/ nWZAHkMsY/xcyMQUo4AoUloO7475cGePddih9ivWY+ASHb1khLAXtBJcUsnROJyi S32cGvq/pcqrrnRt+dd7DPPU7jr31o5HByX4ccGnxjUraHEXP1RfdNZF2Hh7FZ3x xBvyjsBMgmMEKVxEfqy4DnNvy3y9l5pWtojKNAsJ7Eh0L6BFjv8pQxy2+FVh09IP H9IgkN/5XhD/4NKHXD+bjvrBpwI7r2RnPSKwOLpcR8QKq7K0G+QsmQMSz9zRJnY3 QF2URhgIPhSLHlG5wl6YVolevU2H/yfHekCvZ4GXv8XZHieg6G9RaYkWVX5CrHnb sqZKYkRtgX/3i+Voes+t9nEuXD/kJuqojQjrElLyB4UBmHcbndUjGoRKNMzemp9E hBFUHRRVwvFzXnEg2wjdwmQOeGTRIFwErg5bJrN3hHeWm50MJ0WCJpKqgEDgoZ00 vtUFmwxpajeJVE8TFeWW =Sves -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF95D4442A2A793AD03EB6CAD--