Re: [gentoo-python] Python 3 in Gentoo

["Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>]

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On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:12:18 -0400
Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 13:54:13 -0400
> > Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 13:16:38 -0400
> >> > Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Thomas Sachau <tommy@gentoo.org>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Mike Gilbert schrieb:
> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman
> >> >> >> <djc@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >> >> >>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Richard Yao
> >> >> >>> <ryao@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>> Does this seem like a viable option? Is anyone going to
> >> >> >>>>> volunteer to take it from here?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> I can try to make time to make these changes this weekend
> >> >> >>>> if everyone is fine with that.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I think we should inform gentoo-dev first.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Just in case someone is waiting for me to take some further
> >> >> >> actions on this, please don't wait on me. I really don't have
> >> >> >> the motivation to carry this plan any further.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If someone else wants to carry the torch, I am happy to
> >> >> >> assist.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Just to get the right summary:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The plan is now to replace all dependencies in ebuilds, which
> >> >> > have either "dev-lang/python" or something like
> >> >> > ">=dev-lang/python-X.Y" to use "virtual/python" instead?
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> That's right.
> >> >>
> >> >> > What about versioned dependencies exluding python versions
> >> >> > still in the main tree like ">=dev-lang/python-2.7"?
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> In this case the virtual would not work. Instead, it could be
> >> >> replaced with this:
> >> >>
> >> >> || ( =dev-lang/python-2.7* =dev-lang/python-3* )
> >> >>
> >> >> Similarly, >=dev-lang/python-2.6 could be replaced with this:
> >> >>
> >> >> || ( =dev-lang/python-2.7* =dev-lang/python-2.6*
> >> >> =dev-lang/python-3* )
> >> >
> >> > You could go with virtual/python-2.7, -2.6, -2.5 being an
> >> > appropriate minimal version.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I gave that idea some thought, but I think it would be a somewhat
> >> confusing (it makes my head hurt).
> >>
> >> There are actually a few ways I could see a versioned virtual being
> >> implemented; can you articulate exactly what each virtual version
> >> would have in RDEPEND and how it would be used in other ebuilds?
> >
> > Well, one not-so-crazy idea is that we have:
> >
> >   virtual -2.5, SLOT="2.5+": || ( =python-2* =python-3* )
> >   virtual -2.6, SLOT="2.6+": || ( python:2.7 python:2.6 =python-3* )
> >   virtual -2.7, SLOT="2.7+": || ( python:2.7 =python-3* )
> >
> >   # optioanlly, I think it may be nicer than =python-3* in ebuilds
> >   virtual -3.1, SLOT="3.1+": =python-3*
> >
> > It's a bit hacky but with it, you can then do:
> >
> >   RDEPEND="virtual/python:2.6+"
> >
> > which is quite self-explanatory.
> >
> 
> That could work. In this case, we would need to ensure that ebuilds do
> not depend on virtual/python without a slot (or version wildcard).

Well, with proper version ordering you could get the 'virtual/python'
to mean '2.5+'.

/me waits for Ciaran...

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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