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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] GLEP 76: Copyright Policy [v3]
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 19:36:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <w6gftyjj3gy.fsf@kph.uni-mainz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <833318c1-a337-d023-1722-8b3dda6411a3@gentoo.org> (Michael Orlitzky's message of "Sat, 8 Sep 2018 10:25:03 -0400")

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>>>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2018, Michael Orlitzky wrote:

> The Gentoo Certificate of origin says,
>> By making a contribution to this project, I certify that:
>> 
>> 1  The contribution was created in whole or in part by me...
>> 
>> 2  The contribution is based upon previous work that, to the best of 
>> my knowledge, is covered...
>> 
>> 3  The contribution is a license text (or a file of similar nature)...
>> 
>> 4  The contribution was provided directly to me by some other person 
>> who certified (1), (2), (3), or (4), and I have not modified it.

> Do we really want to allow (4)s all the way down?

> That issue aside, I have some doubts about the usefulness of asserting
> (4), which to me sounds like the opposite of what is intended: "someone
> gave it to me and he said it was fine" is a weird defense. Especially if
> the name of the person doesn't appear in the sign-off.

If you certify 4., the commit should already carry a Signed-off-by line
with that other person's name. If not, you must certify it with one of
the other clauses (presumably, 2.).

> I realize we might not be able to do much better in the case of e.g.
> patches from outside contributors, but shouldn't we at least record the
> person's name in that case?

Yes, the idea is that either there is a chain of Signed-off-by lines, or
(if not) that the committer has the responsibility that the contribution
is under a free software license.

Realistically, I won't expect our certification chains to have normally
more than two S-o-b lines (like proxied committer and proxy committer).

> If there's ever a dispute, we might need to track the guy down.

We can also see it more positively, the name should be there to give
credit to the right person. :)

> I also realize that (4) was taken directly from the DCO which presumably
> has had actual lawyers look at it, so take this with a grain of salt.

Ulrich

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-08 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-10 20:34 [gentoo-project] [RFC] GLEP 76: Copyright Policy Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-10 20:49 ` Michał Górny
2018-06-11 16:20 ` Brian Evans
2018-06-11 16:25 ` NP-Hardass
2018-06-11 17:07   ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-11 18:08     ` NP-Hardass
2018-06-11 17:27   ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-11 17:57     ` NP-Hardass
2018-06-13 20:35     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-13 20:44       ` William Hubbs
2018-06-17  2:18         ` Kent Fredric
2018-06-11 17:45   ` Michał Górny
2018-06-12  6:01   ` Matt Turner
2018-06-17  1:03 ` Kent Fredric
2018-06-17  1:39   ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-17  2:14     ` Kent Fredric
2018-06-17  2:34       ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-17  2:17     ` Aaron Bauman
2018-06-17  2:39       ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-17  2:52         ` Aaron Bauman
2018-06-17  3:30         ` Kent Fredric
2018-06-17  7:09           ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-17  7:00   ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-17  7:15     ` Kent Fredric
2018-06-17  7:38     ` Kent Fredric
2018-06-17  8:45       ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-17 20:12         ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-06-17 20:37           ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-17 20:41             ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-06-17 23:19               ` Kent Fredric
2018-06-19 17:30 ` [gentoo-project] [RFC] GLEP 76: Copyright Policy [v2] Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-23 19:39   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-06-23 21:57     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-08-31 15:18   ` [gentoo-project] [RFC] GLEP 76: Copyright Policy [v3] Ulrich Mueller
2018-09-03 17:40     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-09-08 11:43       ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-09-08 13:35         ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-09-08 18:17           ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-09-08 18:55             ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-09-08 19:20               ` Justin Lecher
2018-09-08 23:38               ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-09-09  6:15                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-09-08 14:25       ` Michael Orlitzky
2018-09-08 17:09         ` Michał Górny
2018-09-08 17:36         ` Ulrich Mueller [this message]
2018-09-26 19:25     ` [gentoo-project] [RFC] GLEP 76: Copyright Policy [v4] Ulrich Mueller
2018-09-27  5:00       ` kuzetsa
2018-09-27 12:00       ` NP-Hardass
2018-09-27 12:42         ` Rich Freeman
2018-09-27 13:08           ` kuzetsa
2018-09-27 13:43             ` Rich Freeman
2018-09-27 14:14               ` kuzetsa
2018-09-27 13:52           ` NP-Hardass
2018-09-27 14:13             ` Rich Freeman
2018-09-27 14:24               ` NP-Hardass
2018-09-27 14:32               ` kuzetsa
2018-09-29  3:15               ` desultory
2018-09-29  7:08               ` Kent Fredric
2018-09-29  9:13                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-09-27 14:32             ` Michał Górny
2018-09-27 14:40               ` kuzetsa
2018-09-28  9:39       ` kuzetsa
2018-09-29  7:46         ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-10-02 20:29           ` NP-Hardass
2018-10-02 21:23             ` Michał Górny
2018-10-03 15:48             ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-10-03 19:16               ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-10-03 19:28                 ` Rich Freeman

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